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36 | Ari Asulin Pt.1 | Tartaria, Electric Universe, and Lost Time | "Christ Is Depicted Over And Over As This Giant Harry Sasquatch"

"$awbuck" Mike & "Headhunter" Higgins

What if the history you were taught in school was just a fragmented version of the truth? Today, we host Ari Asulin, a software engineer and composer, who offers an eye-opening journey through alternative historical theories and cosmologies. From the enigmatic history of Tartaria and the Electric Universe theory to Saturnian cosmology, Ari's unique perspective as a programmer allows him to piece together these conspiracies with an unparalleled focus on functionality. This episode isn't just about questioning history—it's about understanding the manipulation of religious texts, the symbolic significance of mythologies like Yggdrasil, and the advanced technologies that might have been suppressed throughout human history.

Imagine a world where planetary alignments and interplanetary cataclysms drove cataclysmic events that shaped ancient narratives. Ari shares his insights on phenomena such as the hollow Earth theory, the birth of planets from the sun, and the historical timelines that shift our understanding of celestial events. We tackle controversial topics, including the Phantom Time Hypothesis and the possibility that the Gregorian calendar has obscured true historical events. Ari’s theories challenge conventional wisdom and shed light on the potential erasure of significant empires and technological advancements that could have transformed our world.

Prepare to have your perspective on history shaken to its core. We discuss how religious control has influenced human history, the mysterious Tartarian Empire, and the impact of the Russian influence on Western narratives. From the authenticity of the Apollo moon missions to the role of the Gregorian calendar, Ari weaves a narrative that questions everything we thought we knew. This episode promises a thrilling exploration of hidden histories, forbidden technologies, and alternative timelines that compel you to reexamine the past with a critical eye. Join us fo

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"$awbuck" Mike:

The Nephilim sightings are going to start soon.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

Consciousness has been enslaved.

"$awbuck" Mike:

Your consciousness does not need your physical body to survive. It's the thing that's necessary. It has to be there. It's the coding that projects this world we currently live in. I want you to read the Bible.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

We got reptilians just outside of our frequency zone.

"$awbuck" Mike:

Six dimensional beings, the ancient builder race. Ideas are the highest form of intelligence, and that leads you to truth and clarity. The Nephilim sightings are going to stall soon. Conspiracy show it's obvious.

Ari Asulin:

The aliens are god-fearing and insanely huge. We're just one planet.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

They would have needed a minimum of six feet of lead shielding in order to get through the 25,000 mile thick of nl, and radiation belt.

Ari Asulin:

This is real. They really did fake the moon.

"$awbuck" Mike:

The world is infinitely older than that and I mean the world with human beings in it, skull and bones, is like one of the villains in the legion of doom, they said.

Ari Asulin:

I'll let you read the bible, the biblical flood, the tartaria mud flood conspiracy and chill the nephilim sightings are going to start soon. The bulldog ball I don't want you to read the bible. There's magnets in the basketballs. There was a political party, a third party called the anti-masonic party, at a point in uh.

"$awbuck" Mike:

In the united states, the global pandemic treaty conspiracy and Chill podcast. Ari Aslan, you are a software engineer programmer. You are a composer researcher. You studied at Arizona State University. You're a very well-researched individual. I've heard you on several podcasts and I am absolutely thrilled to have you on. Thank you.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

Much appreciated. Thanks for inviting me. And it's Asulan, but most people get it wrong, so it's totally fine I apologize, I'm not the best with pronunciations and names no way to know really uh, all right, man, where to start?

"$awbuck" Mike:

so you know, I've listened to you, as I said, on a few different podcasts, and I mean you, you seem to be very well researched on the electric universe, tataria. Um, I love your, your saturnian cosmology, how you explain that. I was kind of hoping maybe we could start with your, uh, your idea, your reconstruction of the earth timeline history, if that's okay with you absolutely?

"Headhunter" Higgins:

yeah, I'd love to. I could just dive right in if you want. But, um, yeah, that'd be great. Yeah, let's go. Um, yeah, uh, I kind of um, just a little bit more about me.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

I really never expected to be into this stuff. It wasn't, you know, say, 10 years ago, that much at all. I was just kind of surprised by the stuff I was seeing on Facebook. It was, at the time, google Plus, when it existed, and a couple other networks that just distributed all kinds of forbidden media, and it was so much of it. It a lot of it was fake, some of it was real, but it was all very mind mind opening and I never really expected that nobody would be able to solve it. Um, I've read, I've read these authors that came pretty close.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

Every time they always came up up to the, the solution, but they never provide the full solution. They're too afraid of calling out, essentially, the powers that be, and I'm really no different. I'm following, you know, in this community of literally millions of people who are trying to call out the powers that be and trying to determine who they are and so forth. But in the end, I think it wasn't about what faith you've put your you know your time into you know which theory and so forth it's about. You know what does the solution look like, and because I'm a programmer, because I look at the world simply on functional terms, I feel like it was easy for me to sort of piece together some of these conspiracies and some of the ones that were controlled opposition, the ones that were fake, meant to, you know, to fret us up instead of finding what we want, and it was all. It all came down to functionality.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

For example, history class. You know, if you take an American history class in high school, you'll know that it's taught in pieces. You know, now we're going to do the French Revolution, now we're going to do the American Revolution, now we're going to totally skip the Mexican Revolution. And just you, um, teach, teach it as if, and letting the students fill in the blank for themselves that the human race is just prone to warfare and internal cataclysm. Um, but um. That's not a functional solution, is it? It's like, even in in games, like in risk and and turn-based simulators, it's really hard to get the advantage for long, but you know, it's easy to lose it. A numbers game, when it comes to humans, never really turns out, you know, like, uh, the righteous win, or the ones with the biggest numbers win, or anything like that.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

It all comes down to the ideology of who's fighting. And it turns out that all of our wars, all of their human wars in history, we're not, we're not being told the reasons why they happened. And I mean all of them, mean, like world war ii, we're not taught the reason. World war one, we're not taught the reason. We're given certain sort of triggers. But if they were to really tell us why these wars really happened, why they couldn't be stopped by the average person we didn't want them then we would be able to stop three right, we'd be able to stop them right now from doing exactly what they're trying to do. So I eventually realized that the solution to this problem is going to have to be including a little bit of calling out the powers that be the ones that hold on to our history and to all of our facts.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

And what got me into all of this was just finding out that there was an alternate theory out there. It's been hidden from us our whole lives and been sort of flooded out by these other theories. So what are they? Well, we all know creationism all about. You know six-day creation and God did it and the earth is only about 5,000 plus years.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

That kind of thing, young earth theory versus uniformitarian theory, the one that they give us in school, based on anthropological history and the theory of carbon dating and Earth geography. And in that theory the universe started with a big bang. They're just so sure that that's how it happened 13.8 billion years ago. So sure about that number and the Earth's age. You, 13.8 billion years ago, so sure about that number and the Earth's age. You know 4.5 billion, so sure again. And we're just kind of left with this gap. You know it's like well, which one do you believe in? And it just took me until 2012 to even hear that there was a third theory. Saturnian cosmology really bridges the gap between the religious and what scientists believe is the case, the secular version of essentially the creation story. So I don't know if you want me to share my screen, but I can sort of share some pictures and stuff sort of helps visualize.

"$awbuck" Mike:

Absolutely.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

And please interrupt me if you got any questions, because I know there's just so much here.

Ari Asulin:

And Ari. Which of the two worldviews do you subscribe to?

"Headhunter" Higgins:

Well, once I figured out that Saturnian cosmology represents a functional approach, something where there's causality, you can explain one event leading to the next, why it happened. You can explain it to a child. You don't need to have a physics theory Sorry, a certification, doctorate, whatever. Frankly, almost everyone I've ever known who's really just sat down and listened to this stuff basically says the same thing I did, without even understanding it as well as I believe I did. They say, wow, that makes a lot of sense. I mean, that's where all of our icons come from, that's where all of our stories come from. These un you know, unexplainable stories and mythology and um, and I imagine just me, that without looking at it from a secular or scientific approach, that most people would rather just feel like they understand the truth, why they're here, their place in the universe, rather than this other version, this you know earth as a speck inside of a galaxy, inside of a million galaxies completely theoretical approach. Galaxy inside of a million galaxies completely theoretical approach, trying to describe our universe as lifeless and timeless and and we're so lucky to be here and an asteroid's gonna wipe us out someday. You know that that's bleak, it's really bleak. A lot of people sort of commit suicide over that kind of thing.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

And here we go, okay, so this is my website, paradigmthreatnet, and uh, this article I've worked on for the last about three years straight is the chronology article, which started out as a small timeline of events. Just you know dates. And then I started filling in the dates a little bit with information and I realized, wait a second, I better do this right. So I started a timeline project and it sort of spans from the very first memory creation to the golden age of Earth, the dark ages of Earth, which is a little different from what they teach in history class, the blip, which is entirely my theory that 7th century BCE all the way till 10th century CE simply never occurred, and it's backed by Anatoly Fomenko's theory, who's made it very clear that at least the first 11th centuries are highly dubious and be thrown out one day. So from then on, modern history, which gets really complicated.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

Just as you go along, modern history gets really complicated, but it's not so complicated that you can't find the causality of everything that's happening Like. Explain it like I said to a kid Say oh, why are we still fighting wars today? Well, you know, there's actually a couple of simple reasons Won't get into just yet, but if you know the real history of Earth, it's really not so surprising why those would be the reasons or why we're still doing this now, because a lot of this stuff simply hasn't been resolved. Religion hasn't been resolved.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

We've got people fighting right now in the Middle East over an Abrahamic religion which is the same religion for all of them and the same God and everything, and yet they're willing to kill each other. So there's got to be something wrong there. It's like well, maybe it was mistranslation, maybe somebody hijacked the holy text at some point and just set people up against each other somehow. I think so. I think that if you want to dominate the world, if you want to rule Earth, whoever you are, you need to sort of control the religious texts, the only actual records of human history that we have on this planet. They're all religious texts. So if you control that, you totally got the human race, and so it's exactly what I think happens.

Ari Asulin:

I love this. This is definitely a lot. Could you go back a little, though, whether go up or just kind of rephrase what you're saying.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

Yeah, yeah, I'm sorry. No, no, I will go on chance a lot you're good.

Ari Asulin:

I just wanted you to touch on, or maybe see more of the yeah, the time that was, uh, eliminated, the time that you said did not exist absolutely.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

Let me get to that in a sec. So, um, have you guys covered the tatarian empire, the roost sword empire, the russian great empire that's been erased from history?

Ari Asulin:

so I know I'm familiar with it me and mike have uh, talked about it, but never had a guest who really like in-depth, you know, specialized in it at all.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

So exactly, well again, it's because I was willing to to look at a couple things that are sort of forbidden right now. Russia is just totally forbidden. Anyone that's american knows or british knows that we've been receiving constant russiaphobia media our entire lives and well before we were born and um, and that there's something weird about how the russians have their own version of history and the rest of the world has theirs. And then the 90s, when the USSR fell apart, they had first sponsored this guy, anatoly Fumenko, to do a mathematical approach to history. Just put all the texts together on giant timelines and just try to compare the events and see if they really are unique events happening over 100,000 years of human anthropological history, or if somebody actually literally duplicated the events and pushed them back into different timelines and they determined without a doubt that that's what happened. That somebody took the same event that happened in the same place, usually in Russia, and they changed the location, said oh, that was in Palestine, that was in England and France, and who would do such a thing? Well, their enemies. If you got an empire, you got a bunch of rebels throughout the world. You got the Protestants who are forming against this Russian empire and I'll get to it soon and they hate the empire so much that they name the locations differently, they name the people differently, their villains and so forth, and at the end of the day, the where we got to here with the prostant version of history. All locations have been renamed and nobody remembers this Russian Empire yet this picture I'm showing here. You see neoclassic architecture, and let me pull this in a different tab here so I can zoom in. You can see that in all locations of the worlds you'll find the same style neoclassic architecture and by neoclassic I mean sort of Roman style into this, into this Freemason, whatever you want to call it style that cannot be reproduced anymore today, not easily.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

Anyway, everyone sort of agrees these structures were created by some unknown means unknown until today. The last time these structures were created by some unknown means unknown until today, the last time these structures appeared was the late 19th century, early 20th century world fairs and those world fairs. If you look up the official history, it was that these structures were built all over the world in the 19th century for the purposes of a fair and then taken down after the fair. That's the official history of these buildings, but just if you're willing to be open-minded about it. It's more likely these buildings existed since 15th century, when they're most likely built. They're like they exist all over the world. They're all the same, for the most part adapting some of the similar, the cultures that they redact, that they um subsumed into their empire at the time. But now that they're gone, the empire, the russian empire, is gone. They're gone. The Russian Empire is gone. They're left behind all this evidence that they certainly used to exist. We know the Romans didn't get that far. We know they didn't get to Tehran and they didn't get to Australia. So the Russian Empire did.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

And it's not just Anatoly Fumenko who suggests that human history might have been obfuscated and lied about, but actually a series of authors, a whole bunch of them, and one of the more popular ones, immanuel Velikovsky. He's the one that wrote Worlds in Collision, that's in the 60s. He wrote a book that said all of the Old Testament stories that we heard, including the Exodus. These are stories of interplanetary cataclysm with the earth, earth, mars, venus and the other planets too, and that the humans simply saw these events, wrote them down in texts and then, over time, the planets all left to the outer orbits their final stable orbits, and nobody could understand the context of how these stories were possible and they became mythology. They become misunderstood. So, um, back to the timeline. The first thing that everyone in all civilizations on earth remember is the golden age. I say all civilizations, that's, you know, um, european, with the bible and the quran, and um, and then Eastern with the Tibetan books, with I have it all listed here Yellow Emperor. In China of Taoism that's what I was trying to think of.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

And then in America, in Mesoamerica, with the Mayan First man mythology and how the first man, his body, came apart to create all of the men and women, that's that spawned on the earth. So the same thing in the bible, the first man was adam. It's just that we assume adam was, you know, a human. But this story was redacted from the southern hemisphere version of it, where adam was this towering figure in the sky. So let me describe that real quickly the three plasmoids.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

In the late 90s Anthony Pratt came up with this Pratt theory where he discovered that Southern Hemisphere mythology constantly references a third man, this figure that looks kind of like a guy with his arms up in the air, but sometimes it looks like a duck-shaped figure. But it's been carved over rocks million times, like almost a million times throughout throughout america and southern america. So he said that must have been because the humans saw these three plasmoids in the southern hemisphere of the earth in the early times of human emergence. And so his theory, which he does not buy into, saturnian cosmology says this must have happened from some kind of comet or other events, which is fine. But um, with saturnian cosmology we have this complete theory. Let me grab, grab the image here. I have an image there.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

In the 2000s a character named wallace thornhill, british, came up with his theory of the collinear configuration being backed by plasma physics and electromagnetic physics, where Velikovsky made all these claims in his 60s book. He ended the book saying I have no idea why any of this happens. I don't know why planets would act that way. But here we're in the future. We know about plasma physics since the 90s.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

We've looked through the Hubble telescope and we determined that the universe is almost 99% made of plasma and that's the first state of matter, not water and air and earth. Those should actually be second, third and fourth. It's mostly plasma and that means it's mostly electromagnetic influences, pushing and pulling, because that's what electromagnetic energy does. And he came up with this collinear configuration, saying that the first phase of Earth's creation involved the brown dwarf Saturn connecting with the Earth's sun for the first time, and before that Saturn was floating around the galaxy as a brown dwarf. And before that Saturn was floating around the galaxy as a brown dwarf, it had Earth inside of it as a dead, lifeless rock and it had a bunch of plasma on the outside, just sheaths of layered plasma. It's layered because it's different frequencies, different amplitudes, just like the aura borealis sort of shows up in layers.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

So this configuration occurred the moment Saturn and the sun became in close proximity, which occurred because saturn is negatively charged, sun positively charged and they're pulling on each other. It was inevitably going to happen. And it also occurred because the previous planets that existed in our solar system had died off and created room in our solar system for the rebirth cycle to occur, again very different from the way they um, they teach us in school. I'll show you a quick video here. This I saw in a carnival of all places. I did not see this, you know, in the science it just won't go full screen.

"$awbuck" Mike:

So I'm gonna go here and I think I've seen is that where there's an unknown object, like siphoning plasma out of the sun, yeah, you tell me, what is that?

"Headhunter" Higgins:

what is that black thing right there?

"Headhunter" Higgins:

yeah, um, umbilical right, it looks like an umbilical 100 I saw this in a yeah, I saw this in a carnival, because those are the only people interested. Apparently, nasa's not going to tell us about this stuff, because they dismissed it completely when it came out, saying that this, this is nothing more than an angle, a weird angle that the camera happens to be in on Earth. You know our camera showing one of these known tendrils sticking out of the sun, which, again, they don't really tell us much about them, but apparently they're well known to NASA and they're just sort of sticking out at us in a weird angle, causing the image of a sphere like a planetoid, sort of sticking out of the sun. But we can can also say, aside from their vague interpretation, which doesn't really add up, and you see things moving right there in front of it, so that doesn't add up. And the way it tears away from the sun, like that, almost like like a violent birth. And so when I first saw this, I looked up on facebook. I saw a bunch of people, 2012, suggesting, oh, that's a plant being born, and I'm like what do you mean? No one tells us about plants being born from suns. They're like oh yeah, nasa lies Like okay, wow, you know, mind blown, a lot of investigation to go through. Obviously. It took me a lot of years to sort of start piecing all this together and find the actual theories, foundational theories that explain it all.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

And, like I say, wallace Th thornhill, he's sort of like it was a big jackpot for me because until him, most people mostly discuss mythology, comparable mythology. As convincing as that is, it's not very grounded in science. So, yes, that's, a planet being born happens all time and wallace thornhill will explain that in his, his model planets. Basically here's his model form slowly within the sun's, as the sun's interior, hydrogen helium fused together to form even heavier elements they don't tell us about which in the sunspots. If you look at sunspots they're black, just like the tendrils in that video were black. That's because the contrast we're using on our camera to see the sun is turned way down, so we can. We can sort of see, you know, without blinding ourselves, and all this stuff that's black is actually just a lot cooler. So the tendrils are cooler than the sun and the black sun spots all over the sun are also cooler spots and if you look closely at them you'll see parts of the sun cooling and falling into the interior of the sun, which is also black, which is why those things show black. So black interior of the sun means that the suns are hollow, just like planets are hollow and moons are hollow.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

And hollow earth theory has been around for a long time and I was well aware of that one before I found out about this stuff. But again, I didn't have any basis for hollow earth theory. Wallace Thornhill explains it. These plasma sheaths basically cause opposing rings to form around all space objects. That gather material into them, usually just water, but sometimes mass and then sometimes they cool into shells. And all planets are made of shells. They're not just giant balls of molten lava or molten rock or anything like that. Uh, spinning, that's not it at all. Internally it's just shells spinning on their own, because shells that aren't attached to each other will spin interdependently.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

So back to the timeline. So Saturn and the Sun connect and they explode and Earth comes out, but also parts of Saturn rip into smaller balls that fall into space Venus, uranus and Neptune and I'm missing a gas giant and Jupiter. Sorry, can't miss Jupiter. Wow, and because those four gas giants immediately formed, we now have our oops, I was down here already. We now have our collinear configuration made of all the planets that we're going to eventually have.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

Here we go. So again, starting from the top. Sun is where it is, it's fixed in place. Saturn is now connected to it and rotating around it, but we can't see the Sun because the collinear configuration is sticking out directly away from the normal line from the Sun. So we see Saturn in the sky and we see Jupiter behind Saturn, but we can't can't see jupiter yet. And then in front of saturn we get a better angle. Here in front of saturn, we see venus, which is a plasma and it's not a rock or anything, so it's making all these shapes eight stars, three stars, two stars, and in front of venus, at all times, is mars Nice, big red shell of a planet of hard rock. It's always going to be Mars, venus and then behind it Saturn, throughout the entire Golden Age, which lasts about 900 years, even though years last only 225 days.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

In the Golden Age, the orbit is fast and later on the planets break apart from each other and the orbits start to slow. We get jumps on the calendar over and over recorded throughout history, and every time they jump they have to reset the months. We just only have like seven or eight months in the calendar. It used to start with March, the beginning of the year, and now we went all the way to a new month, january, named after the Roman Empire. So you can see that some of these months came much later in time.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

So, moving along, any questions about the Golden Age? I didn't really talk much about it, but it's a completely unique time. It's when all life was spawned, obviously, and it's not really clear to anyone exactly how that happened. A lot of the theories out there suggest that there must have been ancient aliens to spawn life, but you know, the flaw in that theory, of course, is that some point the aliens had to be spawned, right. So what creates life is the only question, and I do believe I do have an answer.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

Um, scalar energy, which seems to have a? Um. Sorry, I'm scrolling up down here, but scalar energy is a form of energy they don't really tell us much about. In physics class I had to go into college to hear about electromagnetic energy, and energy at scale like giant energies coming out of planets, has a unique effect on energy within it small scale. The first effect is that whatever shapes forming in the sky or the planet forms on the ground over and over in cycles which just sort of perpetuates at a smaller scale, and what we saw in the beginning of of the golden age was the planets in the colonial configuration moving around violently.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

I think I have a video here somewhere moving around violently affecting the Earth, and this is a video I made a while back. I'm going to mute it. There's one part on it that actually shows David Talbot's animation from the 90s, and this animation really convinced me. So you see there's Mars in front of it. Okay, so Mars in front of Venus. There, sometimes Venus is a ball and sometimes it takes other shapes.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

Let me go back a little bit here just to describe that. So this is what they saw throughout the Golden Age a giant ball in the sky, and that's why Baal, one of the first earliest gods, is named after Baal, or why Baal is named after Baal, however you want to do it, or why some people suggest that baseball is named after an old pagan god. It's because the first god ever seen was a ball in the sky, and you'll see a lot of similarities of simple words like that as this progresses. The ball in the sky started to rotate because the earth was rotating. The whole culinary configuration was they saw night and day and the Bible says God separated night from the day and all that First said let there be light and then they created the seas and all that. Right. So these events, these series of events, are reflected in the Bible and all the other ancient texts too that the golden age started out with a cataclysm.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

In mythology and greek you got the god chronos, or um odin, I think, um gobbling up uh, his children in the mythology in both versions, and then the biggest son rips out, rips out chronos's belly, frees all the other gods. This is what happens in the collinear configuration. It started out as a very peaceful configuration, periodically um, interrupted by moments of extreme cataclysm. And yeah, please stop me if you have any questions.

"$awbuck" Mike:

We'll get back to the capture if I stopped for every question, we would never get anywhere there's so much.

Ari Asulin:

Right, that was a little earlier the planet cataclysm event on the timeline like how long ago is that?

"Headhunter" Higgins:

I'm the guy here, all right, so here's a just a brief timeline there. Um, the very first memory was 4077, up to around 6000, depending on which culture you look at.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

I have a list of dates up here somewhere that was like the genesis event genesis event, let there be light, right, that first event, which the westerners basically think is the first memory, and southerners, including afric, which we, their culture, has just been destroyed, by the way, but they used to believe in. That goes on much further back than the Golden Age, before creation, time evolving those three plasmoids, and they had their own version of it. Like I said, the first man theory. But the Westerners Crusaders, spanish Empire and so forth did destroy most of that stuff. The british later, and um, and in their version, uh, the one we're taught, creation starts with god creating the earth and heavens and all that stuff right after creating light. In six days, in six short days. So each day represents a long period of time and uh throughout the golden age essentially, and the the first couple days happen time and uh throughout the golden age essentially, and the the first couple days happened at the beginning of the golden age where, um, essentially there's just a lot of cataclysm in catholic like. Let me go to that chronos picture just to sort of depict what I mean here.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

Here's some paintings. You know a lot of people don't really understand these paintings, aside from the fact that they're based on mythology, but they really do depict sort of the confusion and horror that these myths represent when the father births like a thousand children and just gobbles them all up. It only could happen in physics and it could only happen for natural, physical reasons, not necessarily humans. It can't be related to human stuff at all. In the very beginning there you see three, uh, three thousand four, uh, two thousand one hundred forty seven. Uh, this is actually um, I'm sorry, this is after the golden age, so let me clarify here.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

Uh, the golden age ended with some major cataclysms. Everything just fell apart. The um. What was great about the golden age? The abundance. And it was hard to die. It was really hard to be injured and killed. They didn't know much about death back then or want of any kind. Essentially, it just sort of ends with this flood.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

Three separate events that the Earth gets flooded. The first one is when Earth is ejected from Saturn's plasma sheath and enters through it and essentially gets a great deluge right, the first great deluge which adds to all of our oceans here on Earth. Nobody knows where our oceans came from. It's not explained in geology, certainly not in a uniformitarian Earth theory, that where the Earth forms over billions of years. You think all a uniformitarian Earth theory where the Earth forms over billions of years. You'd think all that water would just seep into the Earth at some point and you don't know why it's salty. The oceans are consistently salty throughout the Earth without a salt source. Even if there was one salt source somewhere, you'd expect it to be non-uniform, but it's consistent. Why? Becauseurn's plasma had salt in it and it has the exact same salt to water or hydrogen ratio as our ocean does. It's an exact match.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

Just one of those things it's just uncanny about this theory that does seem like the earth passed through saturn's outer shell at some point and absorbed all that water. Another thing that's uncanny if you look at the tilts of the earth. Earth is slightly tilted, gives us our seasons, and mars is too, and saturn is also, and so is venus and um, I think I got venus wrong. But earth, mars and saturn all being on the exact same tilt is a statistical, statistical impossibility. That should not happen. So many people in so many fields should agree that that should just be impossible by chance, coincidence on top of coincidence. But it would be explained if they all had the exact same spin axis at one point in the past, before the cataclysm tore them apart and they kept their spin orbits and that's why they match so again, uncanny um coincidences which can be observed today, right now, show us that the creation of our planets are something entirely different from what they told us, and something has to explain these coincidences. So yeah, to answer your question, at the beginning of the golden age there was some planetary cataclysm and at the end, the beginning of the dark ages, starting in 3147 according to the bible, and um western sources, this one basically, uh, the dark ages. This, this event was um remembered in the bible as the Garden of Eden and the humanity being cast out of the Garden of Eden. We're told that it happened because we ate from the Tree of Knowledge. That was our fault and without really understanding why anyone would say that.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

Let's first look at the tree. The collinear configuration was also known as the, the tree of yukidrasil, the, the giant world tree, which is just a big colonial tree, and you find this in mythology all the time. You'll find that, like there's middle earth right in lord of the rings and a bunch of other ones, and it's never really explained middle, what we're middle, where are you middle of? I used to think maybe hollow earth, but really it's all over our actual mythology, and certainly Norse mythology, which talks about each realm. Now, each realm has a very specific condition. There's a realm of fire. There's a realm of ice, there's a realm that you can't go to. There's a realm that you can at the north, which is really pleasant. So, very simply, the tree of Yggdrasil is the tree of life, it's the Tower of Babel, it's all of the mythology towers or trees that at some point came apart and formed everything that we know today. And you see that in Indian mythology as well, in the Western Bible, the tree of life was hidden because we ate from the tree of Knowledge.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

The Tree of Knowledge was also known as Atlantis Atlantis let me get back to that one right here. I don't have any good pictures for Atlantis or any reference points at all. Really, honestly, all I know is that Atlantis was in the most ideal locations during the Golden Age, where power of the culinary configuration was so abundant and ever-present that gems and emeralds were growing out of the ground and it seemed like magical times. Essentially, technology was sort of just springing to life. It wasn't inventing itself, but you could grab an emerald and you could just meditate and you can store a memory into it and you can hand it to somebody else and they can see the memory that you just had. You know, stuff like that. That's really hard to account for these days in our conditions today. We don't have anything like that.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

We saw these stories later on, though. We saw them in the Mormon Bible. Book of Mormon. Joseph Smith has a playback device, some kind of ancient buried playback device, that, while the Mormons end up believing it was a golden tablet, the initial versions of that story were that it was an emerald tablet and that this definition is kind of lost on people in 19th century. But Joseph Smith had an emerald tablet that had a very specific function. It stored tons and tons of memory, unlimited. Actually, it used an infinitely indexed database.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

Not software, not technology or anything that humans had to invent, just stuff we know about science. If you store a wave energy at a different frequency, you can store two waves together in the same broadband and you can store energy in crystals that could stay there forever. You can store energy in capacitors and in watches inside quartz crystals, as long as there's an energy battery plugged into it. So we know these things about energy. We just we're not using it right now because, you know, powers-that-be insisted on a digital format which takes no advantage of any of this and we're sort of kept in the dark. You know, thanks ibm and microsoft for the monopoly. It's very, very effective. We always assumed that monopolies and planned obsolescence and stuff were all simply profit driven. Actually, this is more about suppressed technology, stuff that we've known about most of our human history and then just sort of lost it in the last two centuries as a result of the war.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

So back to Joseph Smith. There was something really interesting about his story. I'm jumping way ahead here, but he had a story from the ancient past when the Tower of Babel came apart and Moroni, apparently, this guy, this giant from Jerusalem, went to America way back then and he just recorded all of his memories in these emerald tablets and left behind or had somewhere in his workshop the devices to listen. If you use these devices correctly, you can play back everything and keep it stored forever. If you use these devices incorrectly, you literally pull the energy out of the crystal and it's gone. So Joseph Smith having received nothing, um, these visions from spirits, apparently, or something you know we don't know if that's true, but he found the tablets and he used them and he's playing around with them and he got visions from the tablets. We showed him very specifically a recording of a guy telling a story. Not the whole story itself. It wasn't that copy, it was just maroney's story about ancient um the tower babel coming apart about. You know, um how? There wasn't that copy. It was just maroni's story about ancient um the tower babel coming apart about. You know, um how there wasn't golden age again in the in the in the mormon bible a lot of things reflect the christian bible, but it's an earlier copy of the christian bible. Christian bible went through a lot of redaction. It was converted from cyrillic to latin, changed many, many times. I'll give you a quick example of uh of what changed.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

So you got the great deluge and then during the dark ages, you have all these pyramids springing up all over the planet, definitely created by humans, not aliens or anything like that. Um, the pyramids are easy to create because they're made of concrete. Um, historians seem to get this wrong. They get confused about concrete. That, you know, has that need to be invented in the 20th century, but it's been around forever and it's a lot easier than building blocks and moving them in the water and just you name it. Their theories are just not not working out. But the concrete theory which and again, until a, fumenko supports, because his version of theory of pyramids includes all the pyramids, not just the ones in egypt, and he knows that these pyramids existed all over the planet here we go, and even today, the ones they're still building, like in North Korea, that's a pyramid, it's the biggest pyramid on Earth and the pyramids have a certain function. They're like a tower, like an energetic coalescing of energy tower.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

So why were the first pyramids built? Well, there was no way back then to just like enslave people, whip them and make them build pyramids or anything, not back then. So that's the scratch slaves. That that's just mythology, redaction from 19th century century actual chain slavery and just people also writing the holy text and mass distributing them in 19th century and thinking that that's what slavery meant back then. But actually in the egypt, in the pyramidal empire, the ancient egyptian empire, I call it pure middle because really it was all of the pyramids in earth and it was an empire of pyramids. Because they built them pyramids. They had an empire, it had a function. Like I said, it was able to coalesce energy and you can talk from one pyramid to the other, you can communicate, which gave an empire an advantage no one could possibly surpass, and they lasted throughout the Golden Age.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

They did all that Babylonian stuff that we've heard of. There's, you know, worshipping to Baal. You know Baal had disappeared and they didn't know where he went. So they started, the priests started blaming you know the people and saying it's our fault, we're the ones that did it and we need to start sacrificing humans, animals, in order to get the fertility god back. Dionysus, whatnot? They were just looking for the crops to return, for the sun to return, not the sun we know today, the old sun, the Saturn, the one that was up in the sky at all times of day. That was very comforting. It's hard for us to imagine something like that being there and then suddenly never seeing it again. So these guys turned to all kinds of really evil conclusions and it's made the church evil until this day. They've never gotten over it. They definitely think that humans are sinful and that all of the cataclysm we've ever received wasn't natural at all. It was all a result of various blasphemies that we've achieved throughout history.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

So pyramids throughout history an unmistakable sign of something. And they're all throughout the equator too. It's not like they're just everywhere. They were in places of high energy. Actually they were ley lines of electromagnetic influence cross and you can still find those places today. Today they build like laboratories in there and stuff. If you go to those locations, compasses don't work. It's very interesting, but you know they don't tell us much about it.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

So all of the mythology is based on these moments. You know, definitely, greek. You got the cosmic thunderbolt, jupiter shooting a giant lightning bolt which crossed the sky over a two or three days period, striking venus. Yeah, I put the oh shit there because it looks like that that dragon Venus is really scared, um, but the cosmic Thunderbolt, you know, shows up in many different forms and, um, it's entirely a natural shape that here's, here's, in this row here. These are natural plasmoids created in a lab and down here these are artifacts found throughout history. So they saw these plasmoids, these natural plasmoids, in the sky, between planets, and they simply wrote it down. It's in all our mythology, you know, like Fantasia and stuff.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

Those who know, you know they put the icons everywhere. It's their deep state, internal religion, to know this stuff, to keep us thinking that it's God so that they can play God. You know it's not very complicated to understand why they would hide this from us can play god. You know it's not very complicated to know to understand why they would hide this from us. The narnia stuff is all about. You know how cs lewis knew that christian mythology is polytheistic, not monotheistic, based on the, the planets and, uh, based on our hidden history. When you know all this stuff was known, also known as the islamic golden age. You know about 800 years of of really golden age, of knowledge type times, not not the golden age I mentioned before, but just a scientific age where humans had already figured out all this stuff out. Like I keep reiterating that in only the last two centuries was all this hidden and forbidden to us and it's, like I said, it's very easy that children can understand it. That's what CS Lewis was after, you know it's making sure that Christians don't lose this stuff entirely. He was well-versed in it being British influence.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

So, yeah, pyramids are also Stargates. You know that Stargate movie that shows the pyramid and all that? They depict it completely wrong. You know it's not just the device in the ground and it's not something that goes to the other side of the galaxy or universe. It just goes within proximity to the planet, up there in the sky, mars mostly, and you'll find pyramids on mars. It doesn't go anywhere else because the energy that's discharging in the configurations isn't going anywhere outside of our solar system. It's just it's all here balancing itself out.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

During these times people could actually travel between the pyramids. This is again in all mythologies, egyptian. In our Bible too. The Ark of the Covenant actually has that context within it that it allows you to teleport to where God is and allows God to teleport to Earth, that kind of stuff. So they're just talking about human gods, gods, priests that they worship at the time. Um, planet Venus has had, you know, a dual history throughout mythology. Sometimes it's benevolent, beautiful princess, and other times it's Medusa with the many tendrils or eyes, whatever. And to look at the face of Venus is to turn to stone, because Venus at times caused cataclysms on Earth that caused a major electronic discharge that hit the Earth, and when electricity hits the ground it can cause instantaneous petrification. Petrification, which they tell us takes millions of years, can be reproduced in the laboratory instantaneously with a big enough amplitude. So it's entirely possible that all the petrification that we're seeing around the world happened because of these um discharges, these planet discharges, and um the mythology which otherwise cannot be explained, like medusa, medusa, or um lots, what?

Ari Asulin:

no, it's the other one, um yeah, that's it lots uh, wife turning to stone right, I was gonna say I have one right here.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

Sodom and Gomorrah. You know, those guys turn to stone. That was one interplanetary cataclysm with Mars. Mars aligned with Earth many times during the Dark Age. Okay, so let me get to the timeline.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

Sodom and Gomorrah is just a random event when Mars aligns and Mercury aligns on the other side of Earth and all this energy passes through and destroys five cities of the plane, completely destroys these cities and petrifies people caught out in the plane. People didn't know what to make of it, but the priests, like I said, they insisted that there must be some reason that God destroyed that city. And so they looked at who were there at the city and they say, well, they had some promiscuity in the city and a lot of people like to just rape people and so forth. So it goes. Of course, it was the enemies of the people living there, the Westerners talking about Eastern city, that probably weren't telling the truth. So I don't know if these Westerners are even you know honest about that one aspect Was there sodomism in Sodom and Gomorrah, in those two cities? Probably not, you know, we don't know. But anyway, they couldn't figure out a reason why it was destroyed and it just stuck for so long and became this term. That means sin. It means every time this stuff happens it's because God showed up and destroyed a town. And now go back to the priests and start praying to God and give up your ways and that's the only solution the priests are offering you, or God's not going to let you into heaven.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

Most of the time throughout human history, humans didn't believe in heaven or hell, or listen to priests or go to churches or any of that stuff. Those churches usually had to stay underground and the stuff they taught was so upsetting and their sacrifices and stuff circumcision and control over popular foods, you name it. It's just they were not popular. But in times of cataclysm, everyone runs back to the church and just says what has happened? Please, priest, tell me what has happened. And the priests take advantage and they say you know, oh, these were plagues, it must have been the Pharaoh's fault.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

You know a lot of modern theologians, philosophers, definitely called these things into question. It wasn't just something we're doing now, like Sigmund Freud, for example, definitely insisted that in his reading of the Old Testament, the Exodus story, which I read in Hebrew high Jewish school myself, basically could not have meant, if you look at it for what it's written could not possibly meant that the people running the Egyptian empire in the Exodus story were also the slaves of the Exodus. He said the Exodus was the upper class, the priest class, leaving Egypt, not the slaves. Slaves, the slaves stayed in egypt. That the story is all wrong if you look at the early versions of it.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

So the exodus story was when in 1492 interesting date, right again, they don't tell us the dates for a reason the, the comet venus was in a comet shape exploded out of um jupiter's belly through the eye of Jupiter, came right through it and streaked across the sky on Earth. And the Earthlings thought you know, this is gonna be another cataclysm. And you know they went to the priests and the priests said well, you know, we really couldn't predict this one. We have no idea why the Trinity Triform God which used to appear as in the sky, like I said, jupiter, saturn, mars and Venus why it was one god in the past, why it would split into different planets in 1492. They couldn't explain that to the people and the people are like are you kidding me? You guys don't know why this is happening and the exodus as a result was because the priests had to leave their position of power in this pure middle empire they didn't want. Result was because the priests had to leave their, their position of power in this pure middle empire. Then no one will listen to them anymore because they couldn't predict the gods anymore and that the gods were doing weird things which made it really clear that the priests weren't weren't their representatives. You know, I can go on all day about that. So the pure middle empire, the exodus event, was the end of that empire. 1492 was the end and the people sort of left, left the authority. They definitely stayed in Egypt. The slaves are still there and stuff to continue to have Pharaoh's into modern times. But, um, but the ruling class was gone, the deep state, the church class, whatever you want, call them, the Atlanteans, the ones who believed in monotheism, the ones who insisted that they have to follow ten commandments and have a covenant with god and under circumcision. All those kinds of people had to go underground in the exodus event. Again, exodus right.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

And in asia you got this dragon story about how, after venus streaked across the sky, the dragon regarded the sun. I mean, it's the sun in every painting I know. The mythologist is all redacted by the, by the communist government, but the the um. But the paintings really show the dragon. Regarding the sun, in this moment, venus stops being a dragon and becomes a ball and finds its current orbit close to the sun, or it continues till today.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

Um, planets changing orbits suddenly and violently really shouldn't be that surprising in an electric universe. And that's in an electric universe and that's because an electric universe we're applying electromagnetic theory, which is also applied in atomic theory, and in atomic theory you got atoms that have electrons jumping state, and they jump state violently. They don't do it like gradually. The electrons will jump to a higher or lower state by absorbing or giving off energy in the surrounding environment, chemical reactions and heat and stuff. Um, planets do the exact same thing. So venus, having um gathered too much energy within jupiter, that pops out. Jupiter becomes its own planet and heads towards the sun, towards a positive energy source, and then gets to that next energetic uh layer, its orbit, which isn't an orbit so much as a layer, and just stops and gets stuck there. So that's what chinese remember and I agree with them. That's what happened. And then something really interesting happened right after that the uh.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

The bible says that as joshua was leading the israelites from, from egypt to, uh, israel, which? Um again, let me just say these locations were changed. Egypt originally meant anywhere in the egyptian empire, which later meant russia, because that was the biggest location for the biggest empire of the world. So russia was original, or it was an original name for egypt, and the proof of that is in the gypsies. Gypsies have the word egypt in them and they all come from russia, or at least they come from the east. So you know, this empire has been disappeared from history. And then there's these gypsies left over, right, it makes sense. So, um, back to the, the exodus story. One thing I'll mention.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

In the first version of the exodus story it's different from the version that we know today. The biggest difference is there's no Moses at all and God speaks directly to the reader and says I'm doing these things, I'm parting the sea, the sea is turning red and I'm separating it and I'm hitting the earth with fire and brimstone. I'm doing it for this or that reason. The reasons were filled in by the priests, who did the best they could. It for this or that reason. The reasons were filled in by the priests, who did the best they could. The cataclysms were described as not really having had any particular cause. For example, the red sea parted on its own. God just decided to do it. It wasn't to like drive like people through it, like that's. That's a really cool story, right, but it's an embellishment added in modern times. In the 19th century, actually, somebody added that whole thing about the israelites going into the water and moses and god parting the ocean.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

But the first version doesn't have that and so, more to the point, the first version doesn't have moses, and moses, of course, is just zeus, a redaction of the of the old testament, savior, which um only got the word zeus because the israelites or the jews, jews, went through the Greek occupation, or an occupation, but they had their time in the Greek periods. Throughout the last thousand years they absorbed about half of the Greek language into Hebrew and took a bunch of mythology as well. So for this reason, zeus became redacted into Moses and then later on, when Christianity started becoming a rival for Judaism or monotheism, the original name of Christ, which was Andre or Andronicus in Latin, was also redacted into Jesus or Jesus, but in Cyrillic there was no J, there was no Z, there was no R. These letters didn't exist, so the original name could not have been Jesus. That name didn't show up for another 200 years. It just happens to have the word Zeus in it, so it's kind of uncanny, right?

"Headhunter" Higgins:

So the first version of the Exodus story was just about Joshua, and if you know the Exodus story, he's the main character. Really. He's there from from the beginning. He's the one that's struggling with the israelites under under bondage. He's the one who, um, throws the staff on no wait, that was um aaron. But he's the one that leads actually leads these rides, relates from egypt physically. And then he's the one that makes it to israel. Uh, moses never makes it to israel. He gets stuck in the mountains because he pisses off god at the very last second by cursing. It's ridiculous, but they couldn't really find an ending for this guy in the fourth version of the Exodus story when they're redacting it, and they don't have a grave anywhere or any reference in Jerusalem for Moses, or anywhere else on the planet for that matter, or in Egypt. So they had to do something about the fact that Moses is the main character of the story but doesn't appear in any references in the world. So they got really clever.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

If you watch the Ten Commandments movie, you know I love that movie. It's an awesome movie, but it's pure propaganda. At one point Moses is banished, you know, by the Pharaoh, and the Pharaoh says, and let it be written, that we're striking Moses' name from all records, all records, and we're cutting him out from all knowledge and it will be as if he never existed. It's like, oh great, you know way to keep good book records there. Egyptian empire I mean, if that's really the story, then yeah, sure, of course Moses would disappear and the only way that we'd know about him is through oral Torah and tradition.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

But just looking at this more clearly, it wasn't in the original version. It was all about Joshua and the weirdest things happened to Joshua, not Moses. In 1442, the sun stands still during a battle that Joshua is fighting in Israel trying to conquer the lands. And also, it's interesting in Joshua, I think, 10, 9 or something, god shows up to Joshua and says, hey, don't worry about this battle, I got you covered, I'll give you the advantage here. And he's like oh, I don't know about that, what are you going to do for me? And he's like he lists 50 or so kings that he's already killed. And Joshua's like oh okay, fine, it's called Kings. I think it's either it's called called joshua 10 9 king, something like that.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

Um, the point is that there's a weird event that's remembered in africa, in middle east, where this character, joshua, or yeshua or jesus, really um, if you look at the letters j and s, had the sun stopped for him in the middle of a battle, and the only reason why that would possibly happen is in that moment that the Venus encounters the sun, there's yet another dramatic discharge of energy, as Venus has hit its final energetic balance level and just pushes energy back onto Earth and to the sun, just energy flowing in all directions. Energy that hits the sun sorry, hits the Earth forces it to turn its axis momentarily, even though it's spinning in its tilt axis, which cannot change. We all know that the poles cannot shift. All that material will just start shaking up if the Earth's pole, or any poles would ever shift. But this happened for a moment, just enough for the sun to stop, still for a matter of hours. And, yes, sure enough, it followed with a bunch of cackles and the Earth was shaking and mountains shook and everything. All because venus was dragging the earth's north pole away from its natural anode connection point to the, to the circuit of the solar system, and connecting it momentarily to venus's southern cathode pole, which was, like I said, discharging. So there's really no other explanation for why the earth, why the sun, would appear to stop in the Earth's sky, and it never happened again. But that's in the Bible and certain other texts. Like I said, it's explained by Saturnian cosmology and Wallace Thornhill's model. Yeah, a lot of texts talk about this event when Venus became a comet and when all this discharge came out of the sun, and we'll get into that picture though. So, yeah, cathode, I mentioned cathode. Obviously, the term cathedral came from the term cathode, and cathedrals are known as sanctuaries. You know, we never really understood why there were never sanctuaries in the Crusades, for example. Absolutely not, they were quite the opposite. So then, when were they sanctuaries? Never. They were never sanctuaries to people against people in human affairs, but they absolutely were sanctuaries during the mars discharges against the earth, which happened after venus's disappearance from the sky.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

Mars is still in the sky and still sort of electromagnetically connected to Earth through tendrils of electromagnetic power. It's sort of supported by matter, plasma and just really hot materials holding the planets together, essentially invisible tendrils, and Mars wasn't ready to leave yet, so it was just going back and forth and every time it came close it would cause a discharge onto the Earth. The discharge was, in this case, it was lightning. With Venus, it would cause a discharge onto the Earth. The discharge was, in this case it was lightning With Venus. It was just all this weird stuff. It was fire and brimstone, people turning to stone, the frogs and locusts showing up and swarming and all the cattle dying of diseases. But when Mars showed up, it was the opposite version, it was the anode. Now it's time for an anode. It was time for the opposite type of discharge onto the Earth's surface which, negative against negative, was going to appear as lightning. And these constant lightning discharges against the entire Earth's surface are what formed most of our mountains that we know today and a lot of canyons and other types of lightning scars. But also, if you look at Mars' surface, on its surface, because it was hitting itself back from that same energy, tremendous scars across Mars.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

We're not really sure why that happened. Aside from this theory, aside from electromagnetic discharge in Wallace Thornhill's model, in the uniformitarian model, you know they say ancient seas and stuff, but ancient seas wouldn't cause a line scar across the horizon, essentially of Mars and various other dendritic scarring. I'll get into dendritic in a little bit. So one of the myths that this event caused was Prometheus, and, and prometheus was the god who gave us the gifts that zeus, jupiter, used to have. They saw zeus wielding that cosmic thunderbolt and hitting the dragon, venus, the hydra, but, but suddenly mars was hitting us with that cosmic thunderbolt at a much smaller scale and and over and over it was killing many people on Earth. But every time it did that the humans observed what, what to do about it?

"Headhunter" Higgins:

When it comes to electric storms, not like rain, you can't go into a cave. First of all, caves don't work. Electricity goes right through the cave Very scary. You can't go into high mountains, low mountains, valleys, can't go into water, can't go into trees. But if you start building rocks around locations, you'll notice the lightning strikes the rock and it hits around the rock, creating sort of an electromagnetic field that charges itself, heating the rocks up and never quite getting inside. This is known as a faraday cage. Faraday cage you can charge the outer, outer metals, but inside you can put like a bird or something, and it won't, won't be zapped. It won't be harmed at all because it's within the electromagnetic field, within the balance of the faraday cage. If you touch the cage, you'll get zapped, definitely. So this is what stone circles are right.

Ari Asulin:

The what Like stone circles, dolmens, things like that.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

Yeah, yeah, exactly. We see all kinds of shapes in the past. Some of them are beautiful, some of them are not, but all of them have this spire shape right. It's always about the spire, and the pyramid, again again, is a tower shape. And these shapes were made on purpose, in desperation, because the humans during 806 to 687 bc it's only about 100 years they had to keep building some kind of structure to prepare for that next storm, because mars was still there. It was like going back and they could see now is coming forward. It's like, oh, like meteorologists say, within one month, um, mars is going to hit us again. And they're called meteorologists right for a reason, because they predicted space weather with rocks and meteors long before the rocks and meteors went away, and now it's just rain and stuff, but it all does fit together.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

But, yeah, um, nine attempts between 99 and close encounters with mars taught humans everything they needed to know about electricity and gave humans the gift of the gods, which is just electricity Poseidon's trident, which was originally held by Zeus, and then Poseidon got it, and then Prometheus gets it and gives it to humans. He's the only god that does anything like that and he gets punished for it right in Greek mythology. How does he get punished? He gets ch, gets chained to rock, and albatross shows up every day and rips out his his liver, eats it and then he grows it back every day. That's the theory. I'm sorry, not theory. That's the myth. Well, mars is the same shape as a liver and humans back then would know that they do surgery. So they're saying like the liver planet mars all these words were closely connected back then. Liver planet seems to be torn apart by by something you know, like a appearance of a bird or a giant electromagnetic field that's striking the planet. They're only going to think about anthropomorphic terms like birds and cattle and stuff. They don't know what else it could possibly be. You know, they don't know about plasma. They saw a bird tearing at Mars.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

They said Prometheus is being punished because he gave us that electricity. Why did they think the electricity was forbidden to them? Well, the priest had told them that for a thousand years over and over. Not allowed to know the language, not allowed to look at the holy texts, not allowed access to the crystals and the stuff that tells the priests exactly what happened. And they harbor all that stuff from the Atlantean days all the way to modern times to right now, harboring it all up in these giant vaults and stuff.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

Like the Vatican, they have these giant underground miles long vaults of nothing but collected artifacts from everywhere. The British Empire and Spanish Empire were in the 19th century, in late 18th and in the french before they fell. They just they took out everyone in world war zero, 1912 war, world war one and two. They collect all these artifacts and just put them underground. Why else would they do this, unless these are priests and catholics, you know, people that we usually regard as as dumb and unable to breed and stuff it's like, well, that's just that layer of it. You go deeper and you find out that these people still worship some of this stuff because they believe that they have a covenant with that first creator, god Saturn, known as El in the Hebrew Bible that they made a long time ago. That El has given them this technology and only El has.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

Saturn has authorized them to use it. Only they can authorize anyone else. And by technology I mean language, I mean music, I mean currency, absolutely you know the minting of gold coins and all that technology, magnetism, life and death, knowledge of the afterlife absolutely you know. The common people are only allowed to know about heaven and hell, not allowed to know about reincarnations, forbidden and um, I can go on all day. So we're still fighting this war now because those same people, those those monotheist covenant types who believe that there's some kind of bloodline from mythical, fake people like abraham and king david, are holding on to this technology. And on top of them I mean on top of them there's another layer, even. There's a breakaway human civilization. We know where they are, we know who they are. They're right there on mars. They used to be on mars in the golden age.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

Mars was the best place to be, where atlantis was, and, um, when mars broke away and atlantis fell, and it fell into the North Pole of Mars and it's also the North Pole of Earth. All these ancient emerald buildings, just magnificent stuff that they know about and they found over and over, and they just zip it up. They don't let us see it. That stuff didn't kill all the humans on Mars. They were still there. They were breakaway civilization. They lived on the inside of the planet when the outsider was receiving all this Prometheus-style caclism and was getting scarred.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

And there was yet another layer to Mars, another layer that constantly broke apart and hit the Earth. You might have seen it in that video I showed earlier Just this big red mass hitting the Earth. We find Mars rocks all over the planet. They rocks all over the planet. They're full of phosphorus and electromagnetic metals. Um, during the chaliclysms, mars would would pull that material back towards itself and leave earth material here. People regard it as celestial material because it literally separated from earth material. But it was just um electromagnetic mars just pulling itself back into that shell again. And, like I said, that's where the myth comes from. It wasn't just the lightning scarring on Mars, it was also the entire outer shell of Mars being ripped apart and then healing, reforming every day. So where's that shell today? After the final encounter with Mars, it broke apart and could not reform and became our asteroid belt. Not a surprise. The asteroid belt's right there, right outside of Mars, in the next energy level. Any questions about this so far?

Ari Asulin:

I want to know your thoughts on, since this timeline and perspective changes things massively. What do you think of the druids then? Where do they fit into this? What were they really? And, if some of the years are missing, was there no Roman Empire versus the druids and that type of deal?

"Headhunter" Higgins:

yeah, um, so I can get into modern times because, uh, clearly you can see that there was this cataclysm and it shaped things in an unforgettable way, but then we sort of forgot later. So, um, what happens? So? So the first basis for why I would claim that there would be a blip that would span such a long period when I haven't seen anyone else claim this yet is I am basing it on Fumenko's claim called the Phantom Time Hypothesis.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

You might have heard this theory by many other people too, but in most people's versions of it it's only about 200 years or 300 years, and maybe it's enough to say well, that's the whole Roman Empire, and so the Roman Empire never existed. But Femenko goes so much further, and he's a Russian and he had all this text from the Kremlin that no one else could see and he's atheist, by the way, and he's very secular, and the USSR didn't like what he was doing and they didn't give him access to 19th or 20th century material at all. So he did use what he could and he said look, there's a thousand year gap. And not only am I sure about this by comparing timelines, but I also know exactly how they did it. It's a very simple explanation for the oh, that's an ugly thing. I'm not going to show that. It's a very simple explanation for why there's a thousand years, specifically for the gap.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

Here's a picture of Fomien, a big nerd, from usr in the 90s. We're competing big time with usr in the 20th century and they kept beating us. We kept lying. You know it's shameful. I I like being american for a lot of reasons, but we have a lot of lies we've got to work through. You know, space race was a big lie, paulo missions and all that. Oh yeah and we sort of just had.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

We just had to beat the Russians at what they did, what they do, well, they put humans into space, which is really freaking hard to do, it's dangerous, and we had to say no, we can go all the way to the moon. And the moon is way far out there, beyond the Van Allen Belt, it's out there outside of the Earth's magnetic field. A lot of Russians and people at the time did not believe that the moon was that far away and that humans could leave the earth. They didn't think that, um, but the Westerners were so sure of it that we did that moon mission. And I'm jumping ahead. But you know, it's interesting stuff. The Apollo missions were started all the way up to the point when, um, the theory goes, they were canceled and and told the and the pilots were told to go along with the cancellation because of the need for Americans to beat the Russians in a technological race during nuclear war, cold War times. So apparently and this is the only theory I believe, so that's why I'm even mentioning it this really adds up for a lot of reasons. Because you can't leave the Van Allen belts, there's so many reasons why you can't, and the Russians tried to and they sent a woman up there and a monkey and you get close to the Van Allen belts and you just die. The earth keeps you alive and you can't leave it for that reason. So we've been lying about the Russians for a long time and we lied about Fomenko.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

When he came up with his claim, we just sort of ignored it at all levels of secular, religious, mathematical and definitely historian, and he called out our history big time. He said look, you guys realize that you're just following this one guy, scaliger, joseph Scaliger. You realize that he was a priest involved with the Catholics version of history? I mean, do you realize that everything we teach in school about Columbus and ancient Egypt and stuff came from the Catholic Church? A lot of people just don't realize this. And he's trying to get people to at least understand that we don't have a lot of references for Western history. We just have that one Scaligerian copy, mass-produced and mass-taught, and it's not even the version that Scaliger wrote, the version that scaliger wrote. He even points out that we're mass producing a fourth edition of a book that he wrote. The first edition of that had been heavily redacted. We don't even know who did it he he suggests a person that he thinks did it but he doesn't know why that person would screw up scaliger's version of history so much.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

And he's trying to explain to the westerners that they have to fix their history, the last thousand years of their history, because they have everything wrong and every country has their own version of history to a little bit. When it comes to the royalty, when it comes to kings and queens, how they're all intermarried and how English royalty has a bunch of Russian blood. They're just completely in denial about it. In every country they don't want to admit to that stuff. They have a bunch of bad blood, they fought a bunch of wars and they're just done with that topic. So you kind of see when for me, I was making these claims. He's getting nowhere, no one's listening to him and we just automatically ignored him and he just went away. So he wrote a bunch of books, published much videos and Endlessly, you know, did much of research on a still life.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

No one really cares about it, but he made it makes its claim that the thousand years was added almost by accident, the first version of the Bible, a Cyrillic Bible written by this Russian, tatarian, rus' Horde Empire right after the crucifixion and I'll get to that in a second did not say in the year 1300 AD, and Anno Domini means in the year of our Lord, which doesn't mean God. It means the most recent savior, the sun. Everyone was a pagan sun worshiper, for since the sun showed up, for a thousand years now this has been a sun worshipping planet. But a lot of people started to redefine the words sun into the word S-O-N. You know, son of God, and as these Spanish conquistadors are killing Mayans and Aztecs and knocking them over the head and saying you don't worship the sun, you worship the son of God, you know they didn't know better, they didn't know what was being done to their language, and now these words are forgotten. But, like I said, for a long time it was all about the sun, and Femenko simply points out that in the year of our Lord was Anno Domini, starting with year zero. The only reason that year zero started was because, well, actually Femenko doesn't point this part out. He doesn't say why it started, but he says that it was not a one, it was just a letter for Lord, for the sun, and so every year, that's 180 AD is actually 380 AD. That's his claim.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

This fault, the mistake came from the Protestants. The Protestant Western Reformation was not a protest movement against the Catholic Church, which itself has no reference point for ever having existed, just like the Roman Empire, no proof that it was ever there. Instead, you have this Russian Empire, this Greek Orthodox Church that was redacted into the Catholic Church that we know today, redacted by purging by fire, by warfare. It's called the Catholic Church for a reason Because they catharized everyone, all of the Christians, in this great period of sacrifice during the Crusades. You can look up the Cathars. This was a Christian movement in southern France that was literally burned at the stake by the thousands because they refused to renounce their Western Russian religion ideology by the Catholic Church. And that's not the only thing the Catholic Church has done. That's evil, by the way. So I'm just making the point that the Catholic Church never came into existence on its own. It simply stole everything from the Russian Greek Orthodox Church, even the fact that the Protestants were protesting against Russia, even that. And so people think it's between France and England.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

But he makes it very clear now, those Western Protestants, they're so mad at how this Russian Empire came into existence. So let me get right into that. That all happened in the 11th century. That's when Mars stops attacking us. There's a bunch of cathedrals all over the place, there's a lot of priests and stuff, but there of all kinds of religions. It's all very eclectic and syncretic, which means there's no fighting between religion yet and there's no usury. There's no slavery, there's no. It's just a nice time to be alive on earth. It's not the golden age, but you got high technology. You see all these cities built in spain and stuff. They're built like, like circuit boards, like there's like they knew how to channel energy in the rivers and they had free energy and abundance of food. And all that ever since the sun showed up. Honestly, because all of those Jesus myths came directly from the sun showing up suddenly, walking on water, calming the storms, providing abundant food, turning water to wine with grapes, healing the lepers I can go on all day. All of this is from the sun.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

Essentially, in the 10th century, 10th century, 11th century, nothing really happens. A bunch of humans spreading out, building cities. There's no war yet. In the 11th, the year of the Lord's deception, he thinks it's actually 1,053 years that have been shifted forward by the Jesesuits specifically. So how they do it? When? When those jesuit catholics when they all over the world and started pushing the protestant version of catholicism in an attempt to contain the russian empire, because they're they're um against, they're fighting it. They had the military wing, for example, just, which had a military wing. They're planning incursions, fighting it. They had the military wing, for example, jesuits had a military wing. They're planning incursions and missions and all kinds of stuff.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

And so their version of the history that when they conquered people, when they went to Africa or Sri Lanka and just conquered people and gave them a new religion, redacted the one that they had, they said they refused to admit that the character I jumped ahead, but the character that that created the russian empire, christ, even existed. They refused to name him, the event that caused the crucifixion and then the um crusades, which, again according to from yanko, happened right after the crucifixion, in revenge of the crucifixion, within 10 years and not a thousand years later, which makes no sense. That a revenge crusade and all of the events that followed it created the Russian Empire and all of the modern events in place as well. But the Protestants, the ones who were losing in that event, refused to even name the first Tsar of the Russian Empire, christ, and so they gave him the letter Iota, and every time they talked about him they said he who will not be named, or Iota. This is not something that just Fumiyako says. You can actually go look it up that the Catholic, for the first 200 years of the Christian church, refused to name Jesus or Christ or any of those names, and called him Iota because they didn't like him, they didn't like Christ for the first 20 years. So who is this early catholic church? The monotheist? Like I said, the sun replaces mars um.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

And then in jerusalem, which is in istanbul, not in, not in palestine, it was the most holy city on earth. It was the biggest cathedral. It was designed with three gates, just like like that giant castle in Lord of the Rings with three gates for the purposes of modeling the kingdom of heaven. This is where we get 666 from. It's three, oh sorry, six gates and three walls. It's been a while since I went over this. So three giant walls and six gates.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

They saw this in heaven in the first place. They saw the star of David appearing in the front of Saturn in the golden age and they said that's the kingdom of heaven, that's heaven up there, and I see six gates and three walls within the star. So the point is that these, the first model of Jerusalem, did actually copy that model and look like this. Currently it looks like a mosque and doesn't look anything like the same. But what it was was a location and doesn't look anything like the same.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

But, um, what it was was the location where the monotheists were convincing everyone that that their version history, the unpopular, underground version history. They're trying to bring it back out again. They said, um, cataclysm's over and we can all worship the sun, which is fine, but just as long as you accept that the sun up there in the sky is a son of god, the, the old testament, god, saturn. The people are like we're saturn and they're like I don't know, he disappeared, he's invisible. Now they're like well, I'm not going to believe in your invisible religion. And it really just did not work for a long time. Today we believe in invisible gods, but in the polytheistic days, they saw the gods up in the sky. There was no reason for anyone to believe in anything invisible.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

So when these istanbul monotheists in the year in the 11th century were trying to convince everyone good to um worship an invisible god that no longer appears as as the the bigger god of the one that is visible, that that they all do worship, just because they're trying to get them to follow the ten commandments. That's all it is. The first commandment says you should not have, do not worship other gods before me, the. The flaw, of course, of that first commandment is that god mentions the other gods. You know, like right there the old testament, god admits that there are other gods. He's just being insecure and finally you can just say well, that wasn't really god speaking anyway, because plants don't speak to humans. That was just the priest and the golden age just trying to determine why all the bad stuff happened and suggesting that we all need to follow a set of commandments in order to not piss off god anymore, so there won't be any more cataclysms. And so these guys trying to get everyone to do the first commandment, much less the other 10 or 9, is very difficult and they're not getting anywhere.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

And then they have a second agenda here. The reason why they built all these walls because these walls aren't helping with the cataclysms um, why they had all these towns built in them. They said don't worry, you're in the holy castle, god's not gonna destroy you like he did, you know, 50 years ago in sodom and gomorrah. The reason people moved here and believed in them was simply because they were starting to share all of their deep state atlantean knowledge. Like, okay, we're gonna let you learn a language ancient, you know hebrew or aramaic? Actually, it was called and um, I get to these pictures in a sec and the other.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

The other issue was they built the high walls. Right, they look like. If you look at the walls, they look like defensive walls. Actually, for the first time ever, humans never built walls like this not in the pyramids, not ever. So that they were building these walls is significant. They had a secondary agenda. They knew that there was an entire race of humans out there that will never, ever accept their religion. They're not stupid. They know this by doing missions and you know surveillance. They are the deep state after all. They have all the technology. It's not advanced technology. Just, you know carrier, pigeons and I don't know um, telepaths and stuff. But they built the walls because they know that they have to get rid of the giants. These are the human giants, whole race of giants which existed since the golden age. They're plentifully referenced in the in the olive bibles, um western mormon, all of them, and in um in the russian mythology, christ is not a magical figure of any kind, much less the son of god, much less the descendants of king david.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

They don't even believe in king david, that he ever existed. There was no bloodline like that. Christ was just a Russian. He was one of them. That's what they say, and that enough is so blasphemous that their own Greek Orthodox Church will not admit to it. They're not willing to piss off the Westerners on that one at all. But the white Russian literature is abundant and Shemyanko points all these stories out and says look, what happened? Was this guy?

"Headhunter" Higgins:

Christ went to Istanbul, him and his mother, mary, and the story is weird where Mary gave birth to him in a stable. You gotta look at the story and try to decipher what it means. Westerners couldn't do it and it's still sort of a religion full of contradictions. But in the Russian version Mary is not just a regular human like you and me that would actually be kicked out of a hotel. She is a giant. And she actually has the depiction of being a giant in many paintings and in literature. Harry Mary is the name of this one france exhibit which showed a bunch of pictures of her with body hair all over. So that doesn't alone prove that she was a giant, although you do see smaller people around her often. But um, the same thing is true about christ, depicted over and over as this giant, hairy sasquatch or whatever name he wanted to choose Sasquatch or whatever name you want to choose and the reason why he enters the story at all, in a place that is trying to eradicate giants, building high walls and planning for warfare, trying to conscript humans into armies. They're not willing and they don't want to fight giants slow and go. Process what they do is they say okay, you know what? Something weird happens.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

We were doing a census of the region that appears in the New Testament, a census and the giants were fleeing the census. In Western version, they were coming to the census. Contradiction again makes no sense. Why would a pregnant woman be forced to travel just to make a census? Is there no absentee way of recording her existence? It does make make no sense in the Bible as exists today. But in the western version, where censuses are Eastern or censuses are usually regarded as as scary, dangerous things that bad people do, which I agree with too.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

During the Great Depression of the of the you know 40s, that's right, it's the 30s in america they could not get a census that year because of how much americans distrusted their government that year for causing that great depression. So it's throughout history. People hate sentences, censuses and during the new testament, mary was running away from it. No doubt they were counting all the giants in the region. They were preparing um armies to go out there and slaughter them. They just had to know what the count was and how to commission the soldiers. So, as they were fleeing, she couldn't flee anymore. She got stand stranded in a village in the crimea. That's the location where, where the humans average size, humans, our size took pity on her, which is not really all that surprising. Not everyone agreed with the agenda back then. But not only did they take pity, they convinced the invading soldiers to also not slaughter her and not kill the baby that she was about to give. So mary uh, she was in pain. She's on the ground. They didn't know what to do about it, so they gave her a cesarean.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

Again, in russian version, christ was born of Caesarian section, which fills in a bunch of other contradictions and myths as well. The Holy Grail, the cup used to contain the blood that was spilling out of Mary during the Caesarian, because it's very messy. The Spear of Destiny, the Holy Spear with blood on it from Jesus, that again was used to carve the Caesarian section on Mary and had Jesus and Mary's blood on it, and it became a holy relic. Later these things were just stored in castles and stuff for hundreds of years and as Christianity became so popular, everyone was like where is the grail, where is the Holy Spirit? They're real things and they had simple explanations. Another one is that Julius Caesar and Alexander and Muhammad they all seem to have these weird coincidences in their lives that totally line up. They do the same things the same year of their lives and then die at the same age. These coincidences can also be explained and Shimenko does explain these things as duplications and redactions of the same story written down by different people at different times, on different sides of the fight.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

It's really not that surprising that the Russians would have a version, the people they're fighting and conquering would have a version, and then the enemies that would eventually conquer them would also have a version of Christianity. They're all going to be different. So in the Russian version, this one character, andronicus Christ, creates an empire, and he doesn't do it just by okay, I'm going to go do this empire now. It's entirely by causality, which is why I'm into these stories, why I'm into this investigation. Everything that's happening makes sense. The first thing that happens is here's some Bibles. By the way, the giants had their own religions, their own books. Most of the old books that were written in ancient times were written by giants. They used to live to be 300 years old. Wow, those are huge books.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

Right, they were around long enough to actually learn languages, come up with them and know things and want to write them down. It makes a lot of sense why giants would be the first book writers and why, later on, average-sized humans would redact their books into a different language, entirely Latin, and change the story significantly so that there's no giants anymore and the version we have today. I totally finished ancient history and now we're going to get into modern history, starting with Christianity and the Bruce Ford Empire, the Tartarian Empire and all that stuff that's been deleted and redacted from history.

"$awbuck" Mike:

Thank you so much, Arya. We look forward to doing this again tomorrow.

Ari Asulin:

That was a lot. That was a lot it was a lot of fun.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

I'm sure you guys will have more questions and stuff next time. Oh yeah.

"$awbuck" Mike:

I just love letting you go, because I'm learning so much. I'm literally writing things down here. I have Thornhill's name Scalinger.

"$awbuck" Mike:

I'm just taking notes so I could go look this stuff up too, because I just love learning. Thank you, dude Ari Asulin dude, so maybe serendipity, I don't know what it is, but I was listening to, uh, like a pseudo debate with eddie bravo and dearth, the deep, the dave, the deep in the rabbit hole, the flat earth dude, and uh, they run alex jones and this was posted like four weeks ago and I found out rumble and it was only like 20 minutes long, but it was like eddie just going in on um tataria and flat earth and then he's like yeah, you got to check out this documentary.

"$awbuck" Mike:

It's it's old world. Uh, it's called old world order. It's coming out, it's gonna change everything and I was like, oh I gotta check this out and I watched it.

"Headhunter" Higgins:

It was like an hour and a half long.

"$awbuck" Mike:

I sent you the link. It's got narco and I was like, oh, I gotta check this out. And I watched it. It was like an hour and a half long. I sent you the link it's got narco in it.

"$awbuck" Mike:

Sent you the link it's got a narco is in it a lot, narco is in it a lot, and I thought ari would be a good fit in that too, because a lot of his work kind of crosses over. I don't know if they would, you know, 100 line up, but, like you said, no one really has 100 of the puzzle anyway.

"$awbuck" Mike:

So all just pieces right, and I don't know, man, it's a pretty wild one, and it does have me thinking, though, like, uh, some of like the old architecture, like how come we don't build like that anymore, you know and even more civilization.

Ari Asulin:

Completely it's, it is. It's weird that we don't build like that anymore, you know.

"$awbuck" Mike:

And, even worse, it's a different globalization, completely it is. It's weird that we don't build like that anymore. With newer, better technology, we should have better craftsmen, you know, we should have better knowledge, better ways to do this, and they just say their number one cop-out is well's just not financially. Uh, you know, feasible, and it's like, okay, I get that, but surely there has to be at least there's opportunity for one company to do it. Like at least. I don't know like why, why can't they build like that anymore? And why did they build 30 foot tall doorways for the giants?

Ari Asulin:

I don't know, man makes you wonder, right, and ari uh kind of just did his thing and we let him talk and I know some people will probably be listening and be like why didn't you stop him to talk about this, or jesus was a giant, or this was that blah, blah. Uh, like I said, some of the stuff he brought up never heard it before, and that's where it is kind of like wait what? And then other stuff does fit. It has some interesting puzzle pieces that fit into the whole conspiracy web some what he was talking about with this timeline and the saturn stuff and mixed in with some wild claims that uh, I would like to dig into more with him. His work is extensive, so I mean we can have that guy back on a bunch of times and he wouldn't even be able to touch most of his work yeah that chart he was showing like the visual aid.

Ari Asulin:

I still want to check out that uh website of his. There was some funny stuff that as he was going down, that I was reading and uh, yeah, I gotta look into it yeah, man.

"$awbuck" Mike:

Yeah, some of the things were wild, but some of it makes me wonder. Some of it definitely has me questioning things, and he even said it when he was kind of rambling. He was like, hey, you know, stop me if you guys have any questions. And I was like, dude, if I stopped you every time I had a question, we wouldn't get anywhere. So I think that's that was a big reason too is like if we would have stopped him after every little thing and had them elaborate on the thing, we wouldn't have gotten anywhere.

Ari Asulin:

So and I know we we had limited time with them. That's why we had to break this into two parts. We didn't have a, you know, unlimited time for him to just go on and stop and elaborate at all times. We were letting him work his way through the timeline and split this into two episodes. So you'll get the second half, which we record the very next day.

"$awbuck" Mike:

Yeah, you'll get it when you hear it.

Ari Asulin:

So two episodes in a row of Ari.

"$awbuck" Mike:

Stay away from pedophiles guitar solo. Thank you, bye.

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