26 | Pat Miletich | Biodynamics, Esoteric Agriculture, and Freemasons | "God's Fiber Optics"

Step off the beaten path with us as we welcome  MMA legend Pat Miletich to the show with topics that stretch from the farthest reaches of ancient mysteries to the intimate interplay between our health, the earth beneath our feet, and the profound implications of environmental and dietary influences on human performance.

Pat Miletich, a champion not only in the octagon but in the field of holistic health, shares his transformative journey from battling chronic ailments to unlocking the peak potential in his athletes through nutritional excellence. Together, we traverse the rich tapestry of his family legacy, the gritty tales of carnival strongmen and boxing legends, and how these stories weave into the larger narrative of soil vitality, environmental stewardship, and their direct impact on our collective well-being. We indulge in the enigma of biodynamics, connect with the almost otherworldly benefits of biodynamically grown foods, and ponder the untapped potential of ancient building techniques and the wisdom encoded within them.

As we close this mind-expanding dialog, the mysteries of freemasonry and secret societies surface, casting a shadow of intrigue over the conversation. With Pat's diverse expertise extending far beyond the fights, we consider the more benevolent aspects of such enigmatic organizations, inviting our listeners to reflect on the dualities of secrecy and service. This episode is a must-listen for those eager to explore the hidden corridors of history, health, and the human experience.

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Chapters

• 1:24 Our Guest Pat Miletich
• 6:27 Family History, Carnivals, and Agriculture
• 12:58 Impact of Synthetic Farming on Environment
• 13:16 [Ad] The Latin Minute
• 14:01 (Cont.) Impact of Synthetic Farming on Environment
• 25:40 Nutrient-Rich Plants for Health and Healing
• 30:52 Nutrients, Microbes, and Wild Encounters
• 41:25 Unlocking the Secrets of Biodynamics
• 55:29 Exploring Masonry and Conspiracies
• 59:59 Supporting the Show

Transcript

"$awbuck" Mike: 0:01

The Nephilim sightings are going to start soon.

"Headhunter" Higgins: 0:04

Consciousness has been enslaved.

"$awbuck" Mike: 0:06

Your consciousness does not need your physical body to survive. It's the thing that's necessary. It has to be there. It's the coding that projects this world we currently live in.

Pat Miletich: 0:18

I want you to read the Bible.

"$awbuck" Mike: 0:19

We got reptilians just outside of our frequency zone.

"Headhunter" Higgins: 0:22

Six dimensional beings, the ancient builder race.

Pat Miletich: 0:26

Ideas are the highest form of intelligence, and that leads you to truth and clarity.

"$awbuck" Mike: 0:30

The Nephilim sightings are going to stall soon. Conspiracy show. It's obvious the aliens are god-fearing and insanely huge.

"Headhunter" Higgins: 0:37

We're just one planet. They would have needed a minimum of six feet of lead shielding in order to get through the 25,000 mile thick of nl and radiation belt. This is real. They really did fake the moon. The world is infinitely older than that, and I mean the world with human beings in it, skull and bones, is like one of the villains in the legion of doom. They said I'll let you read the bible, the biblical flood, the tartaria mud flood conspiracy and chill the nephilim sightings are going to stall soon.

"Headhunter" Higgins: 1:05

The bulldog ball I don't want you to read the bible. There's magnets in the basketballs. There was a political party, a third party called the anti-masonic party, at a point in uh in the united states, the global pandemic treaty conspiracy and chill podcast, pat militich.

Pat Miletich: 1:38

If you don't know who Conspiracy and Chill Podcast run the gambit of it. So uh, welcome pat. We appreciate you being on the show, brother.

"Headhunter" Higgins: 1:44

Thank you definitely, and uh, it's funny because it's a kind of an old tale as well, if you think about it too. Uh, a legendary warrior retires to become a farmer, that's. That's a tale as old as time well it's.

"$awbuck" Mike: 1:56

You know what I guess what it comes down to is just, I grew up, my whole childhood was plagued by respiratory illness and other illnesses, and and so I was frustrated because I started wrestling in God what, kindergarten, first grade. And I wanted to be. You know, I wanted to be a great wrestler and you know I got to where I was good, I beat a lot of really really good wrestlers and, you know, would place in the state championships in Iowa and stuff. But it just came down to could I breathe that day or not, many times. And so, as I got older, into my 20s, I was getting ready to turn pro in kickboxing at the time and I was just sick of not being able to breathe. And so I started doing a lot of research and came up and formulated a combination of antioxidants that I could put in my body, concentrated nutrients and, uh, and it took 10 days for my respiratory system to heal and all my, all my health issues, to go away from something that I've experienced my entire life, Right? So, um, that turned on a light bulb for me and, you know, because I went from kind of what it felt like the best way to explain it, as breathing through a straw full of mucus my entire life to suddenly breathing through a giant crystal clear PVC tube. And I could do anything athletically I wanted to. I was out running college cross-country teams, I was benching 375. I was dunking basketballs at 5'10". I was doing all kinds of crazy shit and won a world title in the UFC all that good stuff. And then I started using those same formulas for my athletes and that's what you know took. I took guys who were already really good athletes and who weren't sick like I was and turned them into monsters and so they could train like psychopaths every day and come back, you know, not sore, able to operate at a very high level and just almost invincible level of human performance.

"$awbuck" Mike: 3:45

And then I started looking at human health in general and researching a lot of that and realizing that it was the environment that was causing. It's not our genetics, it's nothing else than just like a plant. If you look at a plant and it's dying, we always look at the environment. Not enough water, too much water, not enough nutrients, some toxins got into the soil, whatever sun, so it's always the environment with plants. It's the exact same thing with humans and most people aren't aware of that because they're told by the medical community that well, is there a history of heart disease in your family? Well, genetically, when it comes to genetics, we're going to express different forms of inflammation in different ways. So for you guys, it could manifest in digestive issues or arthritis, For me, it was respiratory.

"$awbuck" Mike: 4:31

So that's where the genetics come into play in terms of you know all the synthetic chemicals and heavy metals in our environment, so that's kind of been that then transferred, transferred over to agriculture, and lo and behold, healing the soil is the exact same thing as healing the human body wow, and you said during your fight careers when you discovered that and you took those antioxidants so you were dealing with like the, the mucus and the respiratory infections for like a good part of your career as I was getting ready to turn pro in kickboxing was when I decided to do all the research and get that all figured out, and so I went from sparring three to four rounds with the best pound for pound boxer in the world, Michael Nunn.

"$awbuck" Mike: 5:11

at the time I last three to four rounds before I couldn't breathe anymore to 10 to 12 rounds in 10 days. But that's the kind of stuff that we focus on for human performance, health, all the way to soil health and everything in between. I mean again, healing soil and healing human beings is literally the same recipe. Besides, you know, throwing some manure down for nutrients.

Pat Miletich: 5:35

You mentioned a couple times your fighters, your athletes. For people who don't know military fighting systems, everybody pretty much agrees you were the first kind of mixed martial arts big camp with elite level training and athletes. You were so far ahead of the curve. Do you feel that you get the credit you deserve there? Honestly, I don't feel that you do.

"$awbuck" Mike: 5:57

Ultimately? I mean, what do I want? You know, a couple million dollars for my accomplishments? Well, that would have been great. But you know, have been great. But that's not how shit works If we go back to turn-of-the-century stuff Farmer Burns, gotch, good old Billy Wicks, a lot of these guys my uncle, my great-uncle, back in the 20s and early 30s was a catch-as-catch-can guy who used to travel to state fairs and carnivals and the uh.

"$awbuck" Mike: 6:27

Back then. This carnival strongman would do feats of strength and then they'd challenge anybody in the crowd to come and box them or or wrestle with them, right, and so my great uncle used to travel uh to those carnivals and and fairs and stuff just to beat them up. That's what he did, and so they would do their feats of strength. They'd go who wants to come up and challenge me? And my uncle would go up there and beat the hell out of them. He ended up on the 32 Olympic boxing team and did not medal in the Olympics but became the number one light heavyweight in the world. Fought Maxi Rosenblum twice for the world title. Heavyweight in the world. Fought maxi rosenblum twice for the world title. What he had? A split, a split decision loss and a draw with, uh, with maxi, uh, both times, and both times the crowds rioted because my uncle beat his ass and uh, you know, of course the mob ran boxing back in those days.

"$awbuck" Mike: 7:17

So but, uh, there's a. I've got an old newspaper or magazine from god, I can't remember what year it's from, but it's got pictures of my uncle and primo carnera in miami. Uh, primo carnera was trying to work on his speed apparently. So they brought my uncle down to miami, uh, for his, for his training camp, and the guy that wrote the article said johnny milotic pushed enough leather into primo carnera's face to shoe the Italian army. So it was pretty cool. But my great-uncle changed his last name from Miletic to Myler for his fights because he didn't want his mother to know that he was fighting. Wow, yeah, so it's M-I-L-E-R. Johnny Myler, and he had a lot of injuries and stuff like that that plagued later on in his career. But but the guy was an absolute badass back at back in the day for a way to make a living.

"Headhunter" Higgins: 8:10

And I gotta ask was he a farmer? Was he a farmer like?

"$awbuck" Mike: 8:14

guys. Well, my, my family, uh, immigrated from Croatia, the west northwest part of Croatia, which is coal mining and agriculture. So you know, when they got to the island there in new york, they would ask the immigrants, you know where'd you come from, what'd you do, what were the industries, all those sort of things? And then they'd tell the immigrants where to go, because that's, you know, the best place to put you. If you're going to be, uh, contributing to a nation and the development of a nation and all of that stuff and be useful, you're gonna you to get sent where you go. And so Southern Iowa was big, obviously agriculture, and back then there was coal mining as well. So that's where they all ended up.

"Headhunter" Higgins: 8:52

Two rugged lines of work for rugged fighters and wrestlers for sure.

"$awbuck" Mike: 8:57

Yeah, you know, and back in the day and you look at you know just, I remember when I was younger, the strength of the older guys you know 60s, 70s, even into their 80s, very, very powerful, because the nutrients were still very rich in the soil when they were. You know growing up and developing genetically and all of that stuff, and so you can see I'm old enough to be able to tell in society now the genetic change in men and women, boys and girls. You know what's been done through these chemicals in our environment to you know lower hormonal testosterone levels. You know all kinds of havoc has been wreaked on the human organism and our environment of course, through all of these chemicals. And it really can't be by accident when you pair it with a multi-billion dollar psychological operation that has its own flag and movement right.

Pat Miletich: 9:55

Who do you think is ultimately behind it? Because Tom and I, we couldn't. I don't want to speak for Tom, but I think he does feel the same way. We couldn't agree more with you on all of the changes in both men and women and how, just increasingly, our food has become more toxic. And who do you think is behind that? I mean, maybe you don't know, but what's your best guess?

"$awbuck" Mike: 10:17

Well, it's the same bloodlines that have always been in control of this planet. I mean, who's always controlled the monetary systems? I mean, you can go back thousands of years, planet. I mean, who's always controlled the monetary systems? I mean, you can go back thousands of years. It's the exact same bloodlines, right? So that's really what this comes down to is.

"$awbuck" Mike: 10:29

You know, nations don't matter, they're all over the place once you control the monetary system, you control policies, you control politicians, you control pretty much everything. So that's really kind of how how policies are handed down, uh, how things are implemented, and you know, so that apparatus is something that is it's difficult to combat. But you know, my main thing is this is that, from government employees to you know, environmental experts to agriculture experts to you know all these different people, when we talk about the real science, about soil health, for instance, a lot of people aren't aware a vast majority of Americans aren't aware that through the use of these chemicals, we've basically mass murdered all the microorganisms in the soil that are responsible for converting hazardous materials. I mean, heavy metals have been around since the beginning of time, right, heavy metals are detrimental to our health, I mean, it's just a fact. But those microorganisms are the only thing on the planet that can ingest and convert heavy metal molecules and convert them to colloidal nutrients, colloidal forms of minerals, right, which basically the best way to scientifically explain that is. They strip the oxygen molecule off and put a carbon molecule on.

"$awbuck" Mike: 11:50

Now your mitochondria can burn it as fuel to generate cellular energy. So instead of it being, you know, a free radical that causes massive cellular and mitochondrial disruption, it is actually carbon bonded and it can be used by the human body, the cell and the mitochondria to create immune function, so that we're not vulnerable to all the things that our bodies and environment are already full of. I mean, we're 10 human and 90 good bugs and bad bugs. The reason you and I are not sick is because our immune functions right now are operating pretty well, so the good and the bad are at a balance. That's homeostasis, right, and that's the goal for the soil. We create homeostasis in the soil and that creates an immune system for the crops. Therefore, the failed antibiotics, herbicides, pesticides and fungicides don't need to be used because the plants fend for themselves, and then that goes up the food chain to whether it's our cattle, chickens, hogs, us that are ingesting those nutrients, and then they end up creating an immune system for us and where we can fend for ourselves.

Pat Miletich: 12:58

And so, just to be clear, they are removing all of these, the good nutrients, these good microorganisms that they're trying to remove, and they're being very successful taking these out of the natural life cycle. That, in turn, it strips them from it and then it harms us, is that correct?

"$awbuck" Mike: 13:53

Well, basically it's this we have almost a billion acres of agriculture soil. Most of that, obviously, has been pounded for 50 plus years with chemicals, right, it's not like they just started. This has been 50 years of pounding our soil, our environment and us with these chemicals. You know. And so if you go to, you know I've had conversations at agronomy departments at universities and they don't know what I'm talking about half the time. They really don't know what I'm talking about and they're confused. They don't know the difference.

"$awbuck" Mike: 14:27

They're not teaching a lot of times organic chemistry to a lot of people so they don't understand the difference between a heavy metal and a colloidal metal. You know, one that's got oxygen molecule, one one that's got carbon. So when say, for instance, the folks at the FDA measure the metals in a substance, it will say, well, it's too high in aluminum. Well, it's all carbon-bonded aluminum, which is actually very beneficial for every organism on this planet. Organic forms, carbon-bonded arsenic has been proven in numerous studies to absolutely decimate certain types of cancer, right.

"$awbuck" Mike: 15:05

So that's, that's the type of stuff that we're talking about, and so this, the biological science you know, is very important for for a lot of people to recognize and understand why you know most store bought supplements, for instance, don't move the needle at all for your performance, for your health, for anything. And then you go to supplements that are only carried by specific companies, that are not commercialized, not all over in every GNC and every store across the country where people ingest these levels of supplements and nutrients and all of a sudden they're running a mile and a half or a minute and a half faster per mile for 20, 30 miles. You know a lot of ultra runners that I know that use a lot of these high-grade nutrients. In their 50s we'll start running a minute to a minute and a half faster on a 20, 30-mile run per mile and their heart rate goes down 30 beats a minute. You know that's the type of stuff we're talking about. That's the basics of how humans are, at least at this point in our genetic alteration, should be able to perform.

Pat Miletich: 16:12

In my mind it's criminal that that science is there. We can do it and instead of taking care of the youth or everybody, but you know, even prioritizing the young people they pump them full of tic-tac and all this other bs. It's like it never ceases to amaze me how messed up people that are in power. You know it just every time they take another step and it just blows my mind, pat yeah, and I there's again.

"$awbuck" Mike: 16:40

There's a lot of super intelligent people in the agriculture industry, you know. All I ask them to do is to understand this. We understand that everything we all do as parents you know I don't know if you guys have kids, but I've got three children Everything that I've tried to do is out of love for my kids. You know, and it's the same for all of these people in these different endeavors in their lives, everybody wants to feed their kids, they want to take care of their children, they want to see them grow up happy. I want to get them off to college, get them off on the right start before before they leave the planet, right. And so motivations are all the same, out of love.

"$awbuck" Mike: 17:16

But with the knowledge that we have and the work that we're doing with the agronomists, a lot of conventional farmers and agronomists are coming over to our side because they understand what we're doing is creating huge yields, healing the soil, not contributing to the illness of at least the United States, north America, and to our children, eventually, who are drinking the water from the runoff and everything else and eating food that is just toxic as hell. That these people can just understand that we're just rolling in a new toolbox. Your livelihood is not threatened at all. You're actually going to benefit a massive number of farmers by switching it over to this program. It's a new. It's not new, it's just well rediscovered, let's put it that way A toolbox that actually assists farmers a great deal in in healing their soil and growing great crops that that ultimately don't need to be protected with with chemicals. You know they fend for themselves.

"Headhunter" Higgins: 18:16

It's pretty obvious at this point that, yeah, you know, whether it was intentional or not, a lot of us like-minded folk tends to think that it was intentional, and whether it's heavy metals being sprayed in the atmosphere, which I don't know how people can deny that that's happening. It's so. We're breathing it in, that's falling into the soil. You're saying there's all that in the soil, contaminating it and killing the good microorganisms. We're drinking out of plastic that that's affecting our hormones, like they say. There's microplastics in people's blood or lungs or whatever. Now too, and all the food's been genetically modified so, like what you were saying before, is like the men back then, the humans were just genetically different than they are now due to what's you know being consumed and everything that's happened. So it's like every angle is human beings under attack. It is.

"$awbuck" Mike: 19:01

And you know it's. Look, think about this. Back in the 70s is when the Green Revolution took place. You know the agronomists, universities, you know the horticulturalists, the professors representatives for these chemical corporations go out, they talk to farmers and they go look at the data, look at this sheet. We're producing bumper crops, kicking ass. And at that time you got to remember Nixon took us off the gold standard back in 71. And there was a rush on banks for farmers. I remember a lot of farmers were in big trouble not long after that. And so they come out with this brand new. You know, hey, we got this new nitrogen, phosphorus, potassium fertilizer for your crops. Now, mind you, it's created from motor oil, but we can create bumper crops and make you a lot of money. You can get a shiny new tractor and drive a new pickup truck and build a new house and, look, humans are susceptible to shiny shit and money. That's the way it is right. So all of these farmers, all these farmers are going awesome, we can put this down, this fertilizer down, and kick ass. They didn't know what was coming. So, when it comes to the vast majority of the people that were involved in this, they were just participants in the benefits, financially, that they were going to reap. They didn't know.

"$awbuck" Mike: 20:19

When you grow plants with synthetic molecules, those plants grow and have no immune system. So nature is going to what Kill everything that's weak. So everything in that soil is nature right and all the things that can fly onto those plants is nature, the bugs and everything else, the fungus. So you've got weak plants and now you have to disinfect like an operating room, all the bugs and everything that could kill your plants. So you've got these very weak plants. You destroy the soil, you kill all life in the soil with these chemicals so that you can get your yield right, so that you can get your crops out.

"$awbuck" Mike: 20:56

So at this point now, soil dirt isn't even needed to grow plants. You don't need it if you're growing everything synthetically right and that just goes against all nature and it obviously has manifested. All you have to do is go to a mall or go to a grocery store and just stand there and look around you and see the you know the obesity, the mental problems that people are having, the physical issues that people are having, and you can just see the destruction all around you. It's undeniable what's going on. It's not normal and people need to start speaking out and understanding that there are solutions. By literally, we can just mix up our products, our microorganisms and nutrients, put them in a sprayer, take them out, spray the soil, convert all the toxins into essential fatty acids and we're off to the races.

Pat Miletich: 21:44

And just so people are clear, you are in Iowa, but this situation isn't exclusive to Iowa or the Midwest even correct. It's kind of all over the country.

"$awbuck" Mike: 21:55

Nationwide, and Canada as well, and all NATO countries really nationwide, and Canada as well, and all NATO countries really they're starting to put down these synthetics and it's global. It's global now. So we've got some problems and we're more than willing to work with the big ag folks to help convert all of their synthetics into essential fatty acids that are then beneficial for the crops, grow bumper crops, heal the soil. I mean, that's what we're talking about. Is they keep spouting off about green, sustainable and essential? Well, that's what we do. We actually do sequester carbon, for instance. The microbes that we put down are capable of pulling nitrogen out of the atmosphere and converting it to usable forms of ammonia for the plants to use. So you don't even technically have to put down any nitrogen at all certainly not synthetics to be able to grow crops.

Pat Miletich: 22:46

One of the things you mentioned in the text message when we were kind of figuring out what we wanted to go over is the MNRA vaccine.

"$awbuck" Mike: 22:53

I can never get it right. Mrna, yes, yeah, mrna, yeah, yeah.

Pat Miletich: 22:57

That technology is in the crops now.

"$awbuck" Mike: 23:06

Well, here's the thing. Obviously, they've been working on that for some time. You can bet your bottom dollar that, yeah, they've perfected that. So a lot of bills, including my state of Iowa. It just passed the Senate and it's going to the House. There's a vote coming up here very soon where they're going to vote to remove liability for these big ag pharmaceutical companies for the damage that they've done to human health. Now here's the problem A federal judge has already reduced the amount that they're liable for, so that's already set in stone.

"$awbuck" Mike: 23:31

So this bill is not for what has already taken place in regards to, say, for instance, glyphosate being blamed for cancer. This has to do with future to be able to put vaccines, mrna technology, in the crops that will eventually, of course, be fed to our cattle, our chickens, our hogs and then end up in us. So this is terrifying. It is. It is. And if people weren't so goddamn gullible or I hate to say it greedy, people weren't so goddamn gullible or I hate to say it greedy that they would sell their own children out to a future of Russian roulette with their children's health, you know they're selling everybody down the river, potentially by taking stock options or whatever it is that's going on donations to their campaigns from these corporations. This is very diabolical. No-transcript opted out of all vaccines. So there are children in their 30s and 40s who've never even been sick. They don't get the flu, they don't get strep throat, they don't get whooping cough, they don't get anything.

Pat Miletich: 24:56

You mentioned about children. I have two of my own and I think that it wouldn't be so terrifying to me if I didn't have children of my own and thinking about their future and just how different it is. Today I have an 18 year old daughter and a 12 year old boy. I'm 43. It's so different just for me, and I'm sure the the same for you. I'm sure you know the. The difference is just like Jesus, how things just change over so quickly and it's, it's, I don't know. I don't have much hope for the future.

"$awbuck" Mike: 25:29

I wish I did well, a lot of people are waking up about what's going on. The future is growing plants uh, the way that they need to be grown, with these real nutrients, and uh, and healing the soil. Otherwise, there is no future for their children.

"Headhunter" Higgins: 25:43

For those who aren't farmers, you know, or as knowledgeable as you people within the industry who are obviously going to contribute the most. Besides, like speaking out what is some like a I guess foot soldier or average person things they could do to maybe detoxing. Is there like a special water you drink yourself? Like, uh, is there nutrients or supplements that work well? Or like, how could the average person kind of get on board to healing themselves that they can't necessarily, uh, you know, heal the soil of the nation like you guys are?

"$awbuck" Mike: 26:16

Yeah, so we're just getting ready to launch another website, mineralkinglife, and that will be the supplement that we have with the most effective antioxidant combination I've ever seen in 35 years. Uh, that that's launching here pretty soon and people can go and pick up those, those capsules, and and use that to pull heavy metals and synthetics, you know, out of their cells and as well as uh, you know, improve immune function, athletic performance this is the best substance I've seen for athletic performance in my life. The endurance, the ability to recover from very intense workouts you know all of that. And so immune function addresses athletic performance, all the way to just not getting the flu. You know it's all the same thing, and so you know it is for definitely for athletes, but it's also for those people who can't figure out why they just don't feel right anymore. You know what I mean. So it's because your cells are lacking the colloidal nutrients that they've been screaming for for God knows how long, right.

"Headhunter" Higgins: 27:27

I know I'm definitely going to have to check that out for sure.

"$awbuck" Mike: 27:29

I think that you'll notice some people do go through a detox phase while the heavy metals and synthetics are coming out of their bodies, so some people will get some diarrhea because it will clean off your intestinal walls. Also, feeling a little bit sluggish, a dull headache for three, four days. I've had some people that were very toxic. I help a lot of farmers who are around chemicals, a lot of people that work in industrial. You know factories, stuff like that. They're full of metals, uh, where there'll be, they'll feel in kind of feeling kind of sluggish for even up to a couple of weeks, but after all of that stuff's out of their bodies, uh, at a certain point they just go holy shit, I didn't know I could feel this good in my 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s, whatever. You know. You'll find this interesting.

"$awbuck" Mike: 28:17

So there's a book called Dead Doctors. Don't Lie. I read that probably, I don't know 30 years ago, whatever, but people can get that book and read and in there these parts will always stick in my mind. This guy did more autopsies on zoo animals and humans that died of natural causes than anybody else on the planet and he said every single one of them that died of natural causes. Thousands of animals and humans all died from mineral deficiencies, mineral and vitamin deficiencies. And so when we look at men, for instance in the book he talks about men that grew up in the foothills of the Himalayas the soil there is so full of healthy nutrients that all the plants and animals that they're eating are supplying their bodies with the right nutrients for development.

"$awbuck" Mike: 29:04

So, you know, we look at guys in their 20s who are getting testosterone treatments and eating Viagra because they can't get a hard-on because of the chemicals and heavy metals in their bodies from our environment. That's the difference, right. And then we look at all the Eastern Europeans who are kicking the living shit out of everybody in the UFC right now. What kind of soil are they eating? Food out of, right, and the animals that they're eating? Over there we're eating the plants out of the same mineral-rich, unpolluted soil. So those guys are developing with massive amounts of testosterone. Their tissues are much denser. Their bone structure, ligaments, tendons, everything they're just developing differently and much higher levels of testosterone. So they're monsters because of what they're putting in their bodies.

Pat Miletich: 29:49

That's an amazing point. They're monsters because of what they're putting in their bodies. That's an amazing point. I don't think many people have even given that much thought. But I just wanted to quickly say about the minerals and your body being off kilter, if that is incorrect, my daughter she recently went through a very severe depression bout to where she wouldn't even get out of bed. So we took her, you know, to. We did all the things we're supposed to do To her physician to. She was seeing a psychiatrist, everything. Well, she got a full blood panel and it turned out Her vitamin D was at a level 6 and I guess we're supposed to be somewhere at a 50. So they prescribed her like some super strong vitamin D pill that she was only supposed to take once a week. But as soon as she took it that night, the next day immediately noticed a difference in her, and now it's been maybe a month and a half. I have my daughter back. It is incredible. It blew my mind.

"$awbuck" Mike: 30:44

Right? Well, and we always have to look at the you know vitamins and minerals that you're ingesting, so depends on you know whether they're synthetic or they are colloidal nutrients, right. So that's super important, as well as the microorganisms from the soil. If we've got super healthy soil and we're eating plants out of microbial-rich soil, those microbes end up in your GI tract, your gut, and pertain to gut health, right? So those microorganisms are super, super important. That's why unpasteurized milk when parents have had children with health issues, they will give them unpasteurized milk for the microbial balance in their guts and all of a sudden the kids get rid of whatever autoimmune issues and other things that they're dealing with.

"Headhunter" Higgins: 31:32

That's part of it too. People are inside way more now than they ever have been in the history of ever probably and that obviously because you're also not, you're not getting the nutrients from the sun or the air, you're not out in nature where it is balanced. And, like you said about the Dagestanis and theis and the mountain guys in east europe beating everyone's ass, and then you got a guy like alex pereira too, who was basically from like a tribe, directly lineage from a tribe, who, like, still lives very much in the wilderness and the food they're in the jungle, part of that ecosystem, so no wonder he's a beast yeah, and I remember, uh, meeting him.

"$awbuck" Mike: 32:10

I covered his first televised fight in the United States and after meeting him, shook hands with him, I went this guy's a straight-up serial killer. I mean, that dude is terrifying. You know, his hands are absolutely massive, massive, and the leverage on his left hook, the mechanics of it, you know just how dangerous that guy is. But yeah, he grew up in the jungle. He grew up eating, you know, stuff that was fresh out of microbial, nutrient-rich soil and developed the way he was supposed to.

"Headhunter" Higgins: 32:45

I'd like to ask this too back in the wild days of mma that you were in and fighting all over the world and stuff, was there any uh shady, conspiratorial or just crazy uh wild encounters or anything unexplainable that uh happened to you in those days?

"$awbuck" Mike: 33:00

oh yeah, oh yeah. I mean, when we went for the dave manet and matt hughes I was training both of those guys at the time and we went for it's it I think it's on youtube now the, the tournament, the entire tournament from Kuwait that was given by the Sheikh of Kuwait, and there was no crowd really at all. Half the gymnasium was. It was stands, but with sofas, so that's where all the Dubai Royals were sitting with their families watching the fights. Then, on the other side of this little gymnasium was wooden bleachers and that was, uh, I don't know what team they were, but a bunch of naval special warfare guys who we just started hanging out with while we were in kuwait and it was really cool. So they came to the fights, but what we were dealing with when we got there was some syrian that the sheikh sons had hired to be the promoter, and so we're sitting there and we're getting ready for weigh-ins and the Sheikh or the Syrian goes yeah, there's no weigh-ins. And I went wait a minute, I go. What do you mean? There's no weigh-ins. I go Barkalov, who's from Chechnya, is fucking gigantic. And then there's another Chechen there, who's an alternate, who's supposed to be fighting Amri Batesh? Who Chechen there? Who's an alternate, who's supposed to be fighting Amiri Batesh, who trained with me as well, from Brazil, who was at the time the best jiu-jitsu guy in the world. This other Chechen was massive and I said there's no way these guys are supposed to weigh 185 pounds or under. There's no way any of these guys are on weight. So Dave Manet brought a digital scale and so we went to go get his scale and the Russians, the Chechens and their crew jumped in front of the doors for us to leave the room and tried to stop us. And I looked at the promoter and I go here's the deal If you don't allow for the weigh-in, we're all getting back on an airplane and we're going back home. This tournament's done, you can go fuck yourself. And so he told the Chechens, get out of the way, brought the digital scale down. The one Chechen was like 225. He wasn't going to make weight.

"$awbuck" Mike: 35:00

Barkalov had to cut a shitload of weight to make the tournament. And so the tournament's on right. You got Carlos Newton in there, you got Matt Hughes, dave Manet, jose Pelelandi, barkalov A bunch of scary guys. It was a badass tournament, but they had fully planned on Barkalov winning the tournament and Dave Manet ends up beating Barkalov in the championship. And after the first quarterfinal and semifinal had gone on, barkalov was just destroying people and Manet had beaten Carlos Newton, I believe and then a really, really tough Russian, a very, very tough Russian. They beat him, and so it's coming up on Barkalov and Mane in the championship. Pele had knocked Matt Hughes out with a flying knee about five minutes in I can't remember the round times or whatever so Matt was out of the tournament, first round from Pele.

"$awbuck" Mike: 35:56

But anyway, monet looks at me in the locker room and he goes dude, how do I beat this guy? This guy is and he was Barkalov's terrifying. He was a terrifying guy and I said listen, here's the deal. Every time he throws he never throws any feints, fakes nothing. When he comes, he's coming for real. So you've got to cover up, you've got to roll with his shots and he never moves his head. So you just make sure you fire back. Every time he throws a combo. When he's done, his head's going to be in the same spot and start blasting away. You've got to cover up and then blast.

"$awbuck" Mike: 36:33

And so Dave did that really well and uh, ended up winning. John mccarthy was the referee actually, and uh, dave won, and the sheik of kuwait gets in with a gold-plated belt and a 75 000 check or whatever it was, and I'm in the. I'm in the cage, matthews is in the cage, there's several of us in there and hughes looks over my shoulder up into the air because the guys that were coming were big, and he goes watch out. Here they come and here come all the Chechens into the cage. They were going to attack us in the cage and then right behind them came all the Naval Special Warfare guys, all the operators, so they had our back.

"$awbuck" Mike: 37:06

So we were getting ready in the cage to go at it with these Chechens and they backed down just because they were outnumbered. We had all the SEALs with us as well, but we ended up having to get out of that hotel and have the drivers take us to. It's the Kuwait city, the hotel that had all the artillery round holes in it and all kinds of shit. So we had to go to that hotel and stay there for the rest of the time that we were there. So it was quite interesting. There's a lot more to the story, but that's kind of what went on while we were there.

Pat Miletich: 37:41

That's a great story. Oh yeah, that's amazing. You hold a very distinct honor, a very prestigious and distinct honor too, on our show. I believe you are the very first Freemason on our show. Oh yeah, yeah, I'm almost well, unless someone wasn't truthful to us. But yeah, yeah. So yeah, that's pretty cool.

"$awbuck" Mike: 38:01

Yeah, it's. It's funny to hear a lot of the oh, they're worship Satan and all this crazy stuff. It's not it at all. I mean the uh, there's blue lodge Masons and then there's clandestine Masons. The clandestine Masons I won't speak for um, blue lodge Masons are guys that you know Daniel Boone, davey, crockett, george Washington. You know a lot of guys that, uh, you think about Crockett and Boone and Travis and all those guys at the Alamo. They stood on principle. They knew they were going to die. They stood their ground at the Alamo and Texas was eventually solidified, right? So that's the kind of guys that I read about growing up. My grandpas were Freemasons as well, and so that's kind of the cloth that I'd like to be considered cut out of, you know.

Pat Miletich: 38:48

No doubt I never realized that there was two different sects. I never realized that there was clandestine and then blue. I never realized that. So that's very interesting.

"$awbuck" Mike: 38:59

Blue lodges are for real masons. Okay, real masons. Yeah, clandestine, I would call them the synthetic version.

"Headhunter" Higgins: 39:10

Yeah, I've never talked to anyone who actually was on the inside of Freemasonry. There's endless amount of conspiracies related to the Masons, but something I look into one of my special interests is anything like Celtic Irish history is the Druids, I feel like I've put a lot of connections from the Druids back to like maybe the origins of what Freemasonry or other like mystic schools and stuff like that is based on. So is your, is the blue line part of the Scottish right then? Is that Scottish right Freemasonry?

"$awbuck" Mike: 39:42

Once you're, once you're a blue lodge Mason, once you have reached you knowodge Mason, once you have reached Master Mason, then you can go laterally out from there with all of that. So Night Stem worked off and all of that.

"Headhunter" Higgins: 39:56

Scottish Rite 2 was, I don't know. Seems like an obvious connection there to me. But do you know any links between the ancient druids and Freemasonry?

"$awbuck" Mike: 40:06

Well, I mean, look, the ancient mystery schools, the knowledge. You know we're seeing a lot of that stuff coming back right Just in. I mean God, how to build a building correctly? How did they build the pyramids? How did they build all these massive pyramids that they're now discovering all over? They thought were mountains in Serbia. Actually turns out those are pyramids that are much bigger than the pyramids in Egypt. There's massive structures hidden in the jungles in Brazil, all over the Amazon. You know these ancient societies that existed. Hundreds of thousands of people, you know that, lived in these places. So, all the way to human health, soil health, you know all these things that have been hidden from us. These are the. These are the real truth. You know, the Library of Alexandria, for instance, burned to the ground and it supposedly had all the ancient knowledge and books. You know. In that library you got to ask yourself was the fire at the at that library? Was that arson?

"$awbuck" Mike: 41:07

Because a lot because a lot of this knowledge has been deliberately hidden from us.

"Headhunter" Higgins: 41:11

Have you heard of or looked into what Tartaria is and some of the theories surrounding that?

"$awbuck" Mike: 41:17

Yeah, and pulling electricity out of the atmosphere In relating to the towers on a lot of these buildings. When you look at the giant steel post that's into the ground with a giant wire attached to it that goes into the building, that's the ground for the building. The towers were collecting power electricity out of the ether. You know the mercury filled ball with the tower, that's what it was for right. You know with the uh with the tower, that's what it was for right. And so when we look at the microorganisms that we use in agriculture and the vortex machines that we use to create frequency and water, when we put the microbes and the nutrients into these vortex machines to bloom the microbes up to the population that we want to to apply to the soil, that vortex is pulling nitrogen, phosphorus, potassium, other nutrients out of the atmosphere. 90% more oxygen goes into that mix as well because of the vortex that we're creating and the frequency of the water.

"$awbuck" Mike: 42:20

And a lot of people are like this guy's insane. What are you talking about? It's real biological science. We can prove that we can take a mixer with injectors, a regular mixer and egg mixer, a tank for spraying product, for foliar spraying product, and we can use a vortex and we can start them both up and run them for 12 hours and then we can do testing on the contents of that water and what's in it and we can prove that what we're talking about is correct that kind of just confirms what they might have been doing with the architecture right, that's, that's incredible.

"$awbuck" Mike: 42:56

I mean the things that they used to be able to build the cathedrals, and you know these ancient structures. It's, yeah, I mean and billy now I'm trying to remember his name and I shouldn't forget his name because we had him on our show twice but we were talking about you know frequencies and being able to move massive objects and stones through frequencies. And you know that's the only explanation. And he's an MIT educated rocket propulsion scientist. He's extremely intelligent, you know. I asked him, I said you know from where I'm sitting. Frequency is the only way they could have moved those stones. And he goes yeah, 100%. So you know.

Pat Miletich: 43:34

Was that Billy Carson? Billy Carson, yeah, sorry, I think I heard part of that. I think I heard that episode, or at least most of it, because I know I remember hearing you talk about that before.

"Headhunter" Higgins: 43:46

Okay.

Pat Miletich: 43:46

Kind of tying it all together from what we're talking about. In the beginning, you mentioned brazil and we talked a lot about soil and how they're discovering new civilizations in the amazon, with lidar now, and they had supposedly or not supposedly, they did. I just wanted to know if you knew about the soil that they had, amazon. They had this super soil that was called terra prata and that allowed them to have this crazy amount of agriculture, essentially where there shouldn't be able to be any. So that's amazing. We're working backwards, right.

"$awbuck" Mike: 44:21

Yeah, and the terra prata soil that's Graham Hancock talking about that, right? You know that's graham hancock talking about that, right? Um, and so the terra preta soil, very nutrient rich and just one of the components of our agriculture mix is the most nutrient rich, most bioavailable water soluble fulvicemic acid on the planet. That's what I'm drinking in this, this jet black substance. We use a less refined version of that in our agriculture mix. That's one of the components for it. But those nutrients have the ability to go into the cell, assist in chelating toxins and binding with hydrogen, creating a lot higher oxygen levels within the cell, feeding the mitochondria, all those sort of things. Super important. But that substance is the most nutrient-rich substance that I've ever found in 35 years. And so when you combine that with the other components of our ag program, you're going to create tomato tests that have been done with our products.

"$awbuck" Mike: 45:23

You know 800% increase in BRIC bricks ratings, which is nutrients in tomatoes. So imagine an 800% increase until you've eaten a biodynamically grown. We're not talking organic or beyond organic, we're talking biodynamic programs. When you eat a tomato that's grown biodynamically, or honeydew, melon or any of these vegetables, that's when you realize you've been fed garbage your entire life. It's a whole different level. Like I've I've deliberately sliced up tomatoes and put them down in front of people, give them a salt and pepper shaker and a fork and a knife and they taste the tomatoes and go holy shit, this tastes like it. It's the most amazing explosion of flavor you've ever experienced in your life. And you go yeah, I've been fed shit my whole life.

Pat Miletich: 46:11

It's so true. My wife for her birthday. She wanted this mushroom growing kit, so I bought it for her and she had her first yield a few days ago. Huge mushrooms that she's just growing out of this, it's amazing. Ago, huge mushrooms that she's just growing out of this thing, it's, it's amazing. And yesterday she made stuffed mushrooms with some of the ones she grew and then some store-bought ones and, holy shit, you could tell by the way they cooked.

Pat Miletich: 46:38

I could tell you which ones were which by the way they looked after they were cooked and tasting them I'm. I never even knew what a mushroom tasted like until yesterday. Like right it's insane man.

"$awbuck" Mike: 46:49

It's crazy and so underneath, underneath the soil, what's supposed to be? There is a massive mycelium network of trillions of miles of you know, I guess, uh, what would be a fiber optics? For you know, god's, fiber optics, right, it's, it's what's supposed to be. There's just trillions of miles of it and that's a communications network and the microorganisms, the cyanobacterias and all the different, different components of the, of that world, that subterranean world. If, if it's healthy, then say, for instance, a part of a forest burns down, you know, a hundred miles away, the mycelium will transport nutrients through that network over to that damaged part of the forest so that it can grow back quicker. Right, and that's, that's God's, you know, that's. It's. So, beyond science, the people that explore that world have just barely scratched the surface on even understanding the complexities of it. You know, and here we are tilling up a billion acres of soil, ripping it all apart and dumping massive amounts of chemicals on it, and you think we're supposed to stay healthy. It's just not possible right.

"Headhunter" Higgins: 48:03

And what are some other ones that you've grown as well? That was like wow, this is way tastier than I ever would have thought that they are um every everything like hot peppers are way hotter, way more flavor um.

"$awbuck" Mike: 48:15

I grew a ton of trinidad and ghost peppers, jalapenos, banana peppers, uh, corn, watermelon, honeydew melon, uh, strawberries, rasp, raspberries, blueberries, you name it.

"$awbuck" Mike: 48:28

I mean we're growing it. We're growing it and so we put, deliberately installed, a mycelium inoculation, install my mycelium in the soil and then, once you do that to your say, you've got a garden and you install the mycelium in your garden. You don't ever till again. You either plant cover crops or you put down, you know, wood chips or straw, whatever, and keep that covered, don't ever, don't ever till it up again. Let that mycelium expand and it'll expand outside of it. If you're not using chemicals on your yard, it'll expand and keep growing, you know. And so if you just keep putting good nutrients down and a lot of people now are installing food for us their whole yards are food for us. You know growing fruit trees, a lot of berry bushes, you know gardens, all that sort of stuff. People can go to foodforestabundancecom. I work with Jim Gale quite a bit and I'm on his council of 12, actually with a lot of. I can't believe I'm included in it with some of the names that are included in that council of 12 of people who are stewards for the land, people that understand extensive understanding of healing soil and creating healthy soil, healthy plants, healthy humans, healthy environment, all of that. So I'm very excited to be working with them. So if anybody out there wants to have a food forest installed, they can have that drawn up. Depending on where you live, the plants that work with your geographic area and you can turn your whole yard into a food forest and make it look aesthetically pleasing. So it doesn't have to just be.

"$awbuck" Mike: 50:18

It's like I lived in at one point a pretty affluent neighborhood out in the country and I was married to a chiropractor at the time and she comes from a pretty affluent neighborhood out in the country and I was married to a chiropractor at the time and she comes from a pretty affluent family and she's a great person. But you know, I said I want to put a garden in the backyard. She goes dude, we live in a neighborhood where it's you know, doctors and John Deere executives and all the shit. These are million-dollar houses. And here I am, I'm like like I want to put a garden in the backyard, she's. So I started with pots. I put tomato plants in pots and stuff out on the deck and backyard and stuff like that, and I eventually got to where I I created box gardens and started growing gardens and stuff.

"$awbuck" Mike: 51:03

Nobody said anything. I got I got my gardens in before the HOA freaked out. But the HOA was sending out emails about weeds in your yard, right, and so it wasn't directed at me, but it was at me. It was just everybody in the neighborhood was included in the emails. We've noticed that there's some yards in the neighborhood that have some you know, some weeds growing and this, and that I just emailed back and said you know, I I can't help but notice that a lot of very toxic chemicals are being used in my neighborhood and we've got a lot of children that live in this neighborhood and I'd prefer you know that everybody stopped using toxic chemicals and damaging our children and nobody bugged me after that.

"Headhunter" Higgins: 51:47

Yeah, cause you were on point with it. It's pretty hypocritical.

"$awbuck" Mike: 51:50

Yeah, yeah, you know you got to have an aesthetically pleasing yard, while little Jimmy is getting taken over to the University of Iowa Cancer Research Center to be treated with frigging chemo, right.

"Headhunter" Higgins: 52:04

Terrible. I think a bunch of plants looks a lot better than just a plain lawn anyway, but that's just me sure. Yeah, the site you mentioned where we could find your supplements and stuff too, or that's a separate site that's in the works well, there's there's there's a couple different places people can go.

"$awbuck" Mike: 52:19

People can go to chemicalfreebodycom. I partnered with him on super soldier, which is an incredible product combination combination of fulvicumic acid and organic vitamin C. Not synthetic vitamin C, organic vitamin C. It's very good for immune function, athletic performance. The Greens 85 on that website are incredible. All the products are very good, top-notch stuff. The best stuff you're going to find. And then also MineralKinglife is the website I was just working on yesterday with the developer where our fulvicumic will be exclusively available. And then also people can go to. Well, they can go to environauticscom if they want to get the products for their garden or for their agriculture operations and we'd be happy to answer any questions they've got. They can email me at organicsupersoldier at gmail and I'll answer any questions that they have on converting over from their chemical operation into growing massive crops and healing their soil with our program.

"Headhunter" Higgins: 53:22

Amazing. I was growing cannabis for a little while and just seeing how much stuff is put into that and like how much it is like chemical, fake nutrients being mixed, like oh you should wear goggles when you're putting this on or when you're mixing these and all this other stuff, and I'm like then why is it safe to go into the plant and then inhale the plant?

"$awbuck" Mike: 53:42

And a lot of it.

"Headhunter" Higgins: 53:44

just I don't want to do this and I don't anymore. But that's about the extent of my gardening and you're inspiring me honestly. And later this year I'm actually worked out to go stay in Ireland. I'm going to be competing in the UK again and like teaching some wrestling and stuff, and I've worked out to stay on a fully organic farm in Ireland where they don't use any chemicals, even in the house or on the garden and it's fully organic in a very rural area and, uh, I'm exchanging staying there for work on the farm.

"$awbuck" Mike: 54:13

so I'm definitely going to be learning a lot and I'm going to look into more of your work for sure, too, because the people there are like super off-grid, self-sustaining and yeah we're doing a lot of work with uh, Asia and Europe, um and South America, where a lot of them are using our products and business is picking up quickly, because it seems like the rise in consciousness is happening very quickly and people want to grow biodynamically grown food the top upper echelon of food and truly heal the soil. You know, I want to be able to. If my kids want to go roll around in mud, that it's not toxic, right. If my kids want to go play outside, that being barefoot and running around in that soil is going to heal them, not hurt them.

Pat Miletich: 55:04

Isn't that the truth? And you 1,000% fit the bill to be on that prestigious panel, my friend, because you dropped so much knowledge here about soil and health and what is good and what is bad. So thank you so much. This was awesome.

"$awbuck" Mike: 55:19

Yeah, thank you guys, it's been a pleasure.

Pat Miletich: 55:21

Pat Miletic. Was it what you expected?

"Headhunter" Higgins: 55:25

I mean kind of yeah, because, like I was saying to him, all those Iowa tough guys like that shit goes back hundreds of years, just like all the most badass wrestlers and like fucking old school bare knuckle fighters and stuff like that was from the American Midwest and a lot of times Iowa. Those dudes were farmers, those dudes were just badass and I love that. He's, you know. So invested in it because people need to be caring about that type of stuff, because it does start with the food I was kind of blown away by all the knowledge that he had.

Pat Miletich: 55:54

To be honest with you, he dropped so much fucking knowledge, dude, it never ceases to amaze me, man. The mma guys are way smarter than people give them credit for. You know that stereotype isn't just the the free masonry aspects.

"Headhunter" Higgins: 56:08

Like we said, first free mason ever to be on the show and I obviously have my issues with masonry and at the top, but he said blue lodge too, which is just those first three degrees and honestly I do believe there's a lot of good old fucking boys and that type of shit that are like pat and they think they're more so like in it to build a brotherhood and be with like good men and stuff like that and maybe, I don't know, certain masons in history were like that.

"Headhunter" Higgins: 56:35

But the ones who actually get to the top, top, top, crazier levels like that he was talking to, that you can initiate through the past, are the psychopath, fucking satanic ones and stuff.

"Headhunter" Higgins: 56:45

Yeah, the lower level guys, the good guys and like charitable men and stuff like that, are almost like the cover people be like no dude, my uncle's a mason, my, my grandpa's a mason, this person's a mason and they're just, you know, they're just always doing like charity and local business. It's just like a, a drinking, like hangout men's club to get away from their wife and like they're good men and they they're trying to make a difference. But those guys are almost like the cover up for the occultist crazy ones, and maybe that's what Pat was calling talking about the clandestine Masons. I've never heard it distinguished from that. But I said I've never talked to a Mason before. I don't know if he's not allowed to disclose certain things or what level he's reached or ascended, but just by talking with them, him, he's a genuine guy and I don't think a evil, nefarious mason would be trying to undo the work of the nwo, like poisoning us and shit.

Pat Miletich: 57:33

So yeah, no doubt it almost did seem like he was kind of trying to skirt the topic, like when I asked him it did kind of sound like he was pussyfooting around. It didn't sound like he was trying to be deceitful. It just didn't sound like he was taking the most direct way to answer the question. So I think there's some to what you said. I think that maybe he can't kind of speak on a lot of things, which is cool shit, you know. But yeah, I don't think he really is up to any nefarious doings. But I will say this it is kind of interesting that when I brought up, like hey, you know, you hold honor, you're our first mason the very first thing he said was, yeah, you know all the conspiracies about Satan. I mean, if I was conspiratorial minded, which most people say I am, I'm just kidding. But yeah, that was the first kind of thing he did say.

"Headhunter" Higgins: 58:24

I'm just saying but yeah, no, I kid, maybe well, yeah, it's funny because that's what a lot of people say at the top of it is is luciferian or this or that. Yeah, who knows, the masons are uh all-encompassing conspiratorial thing and it's supposed to be a secret and that's the whole thing. That draws uh the mystery to it.

Pat Miletich: 58:43

And definitely interesting to talk with one yeah, it'd be fun maybe to do uh one where we could do some deep dives and maybe put on some chill vibes right uh freemason out here then? Yeah right, deep dives, chill vibes. We're just two truth seekers trying to expose the keepers. Some people would say that the freemasons are the keepers.

"Headhunter" Higgins: 59:08

When you asked him, so who's controlling all this? I was going to say an objective, but I didn't know how we were going to get to eventually bringing up the Masonry aspect. But yeah, I think Masonry deserves its own deep dive episode as well.

Pat Miletich: 59:22

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"Headhunter" Higgins: 1:00:43

probably you could just end it on that. I would say Stay away from child molesters. Thank you.